@orbital :>

In a matchup between the P-47D Thunderbolt and the Bf 109 K-4, the outcome would heavily depend on altitude and engagement style. The Bf 109 K-4, being the final and most advanced variant of the Messerschmitt line, had superior climb rate, acceleration, and low-speed maneuverability. It was deadly in vertical engagements and could dominate in a dogfight with its high-performance Daimler-Benz engine and excellent high-altitude capabilities. However, the P-47D, with its massive airframe and robust radial engine, excelled in high-speed dives, durability, and firepower — especially with its eight .50 caliber machine guns. In a turnfight or climb battle, the Bf 109 K-4 would likely outclass the P-47. But in boom-and-zoom tactics or head-on engagements, the Thunderbolt’s speed in a dive and ruggedness gave it a strong advantage. In short: the Bf 109 K-4 wins in close, vertical fights, while the P-47D dominates with speed, energy tactics, and survivability.

@waterbottl vro Assuming you're talking abt him in the spitfire and he pulls a negative g maneuver, his float carburetor fails, effectively stalling his aircraft. This issue was latter fixed in the later spitfire variants, like the trop variant. Although were talking abt early models here, so this issue still remains in the spitfire.

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@sagearooniexx

I have a couple of picks...

1. The Mig-29, need I say more? Its a 4th gen fighter with insane dogfighting capabilities and is widely versatile. A solid aircraft that can easily hold its own.
2. The Mig-25, its capable of Mach 2.3 i believe which in of its self considering this aircraft was made during the cold war is insanely impressive and deserves a high ranking.
3. Mig-15, this thing was insanely dominant during the Korean war, it has a nasty 37mm cannon (may be an auto cannon, please correct me if I'm wrong) that's capable of just melting enemy aircraft. This thing along with the F-86 in my opinion revolutionized early jets.

Let me know your guy's pick.

@Almond True. From a dogfighting perspective, the Bf 109 holds a clear advantage in climb performance over the early-model Spitfire. The Spitfire's engine was significantly less powerful in comparison, and its outdated float-type carburetor made matters worse. In vertical climbs, the Spitfire would stall far sooner than the Bf 109, limiting its ability to maintain energy in a sustained engagement.

I believe the Bf-109 would win, simply due to its capability of of energy fighting and being able to perform negative g maneuvers, while the spitfire is capable of outrating the Bf-109, the Bf-109 can simply extend and regain a higher energy state.

In my opinion, the Bf-109 due to its versatility and ability to energy fight.

An early model Spitfire in a dogfight with an early model BF-109, who would win?