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@misomisomiso said in Modern-Day Satanism and TST #2:
@Biblecampvictim yeah whats wrong with it someone is talking abt their religious beliefs ToT
It clearly states that speaking on your religious beliefs isn't quite allowed. We just haven't really been strict on it recently as we have a lack of mods.
Sorry if I Derailed your post.. not sure who created this
But if you want I can move all of these derailing posts to another thread
@NightmareWolfie said in Modern-Day Satanism and TST:
@Raven That's up to me-?
Yes? I already don't like getting involved with moderating much anymore.. I just do what I have to do really
@NightmareWolfie said in Modern-Day Satanism and TST:
@Raven Honestly I feel like that rule needs changed- I was gonna ask about it, people should be allowed to at least DISCUSS controversial topics, so long as nobody is fighting and it's all debate, isn't that what we want? People to disagree and discuss topics? We shouldn't allow fighting, if things get heated and become less intellectual and more personal, then yeah, cut it, but banning discussion/debate defeats the purpose of a forum. Forums are made to discuss and share interests and information right?
That's completely up to you.
As @BritishUnity stated, that guy has been warned on numerous occasions.
This would generally be considered a controversial topic.
Modern-day Satanism, especially organizations like The Satanic Temple, falls under religion and social/political ideology, which are inherently sensitive discussion areas.
I wasn't necessarily saying it wasn't allowed. However, if we wanted to, it could technically fall under the religious talks rule. Most of JesusLovesYou's posts are warmhearted and aren't necessarily looking for discussion, while this thread here seems rather discussion-based.
@_Izzy_ said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
@ladiesman217 i feel like downvotes might mean less actual engagement, bc instead of replying ppl can just push a button, which makes things boring for everyone and will probably only lead to less engagement. just my opinion tho:P
Then yall downvote people you don't like... its happened before and made people leave because they feel unwelcomed.. which is why it will not be a Added back until we see a more mature audience at least
Let me remind you of the goals we set at the end of last month for March. I believe we could improve and continue to grow.
This takes a lot of posting, creating conversation, etc. The March Madness Event rewards the top poster this month, how about you get a head start?
Just send me a DM with the amount of posts and topics that you currently have and we will do the math to see how much you contributed at the end!
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If this is for Switchbru, can we have their username/display name?
He's a little dumb.. the server automatically logs the ips that are connected to the account that made the post.. so deleting your account doesn't do anything but give us more vpns to block
@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.
Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq
if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.
i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i
oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible
and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying
You're missing a lot about what I was saying. Our activity has decreased significantly and started to before you got here. Most of the people who left are the same people who shitpost everyday and often get banned, so, I dont really see a problem with them leaving. It is ultimately up to them!
Allowing the advertisements of other forums right now, kind of defeats the purpose of collaborations with other communities as the focus is on growing their community and ours as well.
If you could provide the links or look for an example where we werent being patient, it would be appreciated. I don't have much to go off of. Additionally, we can continue this conversation via dms as I have some things to catch up on.
@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
As for staff, some of them should be way more patient with certain users. I don't even mean to be rude but seriously.
For example, I've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. Sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. If you need another example, some posts talking about another forum site (mppc) were being mass-deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. They were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.
and another thing that I hope was changed(? I'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. I mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. That's just how it is. You could argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? The answer is no. Most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. How would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?
and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this at 1 am and my brain isn't even functioning very well atp <//3
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Nice reply and post regarding this matter. Let us begin,
I want to start off by saying that I have been doing this long enough to know what and how we need to improve a community. Even though some changes are major and take away a lot from this site, they will almost always benefit us in some way. Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
This wasn't just an issue, it was a problem that needed to be fixed.
Therefore, shitposting was banned in the forums section, but deemed okay for our public chatrooms.
As a result of us starting to remove shitposting and encouraging more on-topic discussions (this was exactly why the engagement category was made), the number of posts increased by over 10,000 and the number of Topics increased significantly.
On-Topic discussions give you something to post to, rather than a foolish, unconstructive post that is ruining engagement and the amount of interesting content around the forum.
Others, for weeks have been privately begging us to take action regarding this. It was even to the point where the administrators had to step in and help out with this issue!
I believe that our actions to limit the amount of shitposting in the forums, which are meant to have engaging content has boosted the desire to post more and ultimately increased the amount of conversation around the forum area.
To add on to this, we get about 400,000 unique views monthly. Unique views are views from different people, devices, etc. It is just a fancy way of saying that we have 400,000 people either looking through our forum or using the forum to browse the internet. Our goal is to increase the number of users we have coming in by improving engagement and the number of interesting topics. To be genuine, we should've banned shitposting a long time ago.
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
Hopefully, this somewhat clears up the confusion and I will be awaiting your reply.
Again, as I have stated, please do not mention Epstein, Diddy, or any related to their actions. Failure to comply is punishable!