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    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    i am not 100% sure on this, but i think pressing x, and pressing cancel seems to delay it

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    • dafunkymonkeundefined dafunkymonke

      i am not 100% sure on this, but i think pressing x, and pressing cancel seems to delay it

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      wrote on last edited by
      #13

      @dafunkymonke woud be cool if you could do some more testing on that .

      "Don’t waste your words I don’t need anything from you / I don’t care where you’ve been or what you plan to do." - Ian Brown

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      • VGMooseundefined VGMoose

        EDIT for Feb 3rd, 2024:

        The summary of this thread's findings is:

        • This notification will appear after 20 minutes of screen-on time using the browser
        • The browser will always immediately close after the pop-up
        • Nintendo has ignored so far the petition asking them to enable the browser

        Tips:

        • If you lock the device, you can stretch the total time you have out longer. Screen off time doesn't count against the 20 minutes
        • If you set up the DNS and then launch the YouTube app instead of doing a Connection Test, it will automatically re-display the browser after timeout happens
        • You can add top sites and bookmarks to Switchbru for faster access, or submit useful links via the survey on the BrowseDNS landing page

        About the browser:

        • The timer is built-into the Switch, and enforced by the Switch's OS
        • The browser itself is called NetFront, and is made by ACCESS Co
        • It's possible that there is a deal between Nintendo and ACCESS that limits the usage of the browser (This is only speculation)

        Homebrew workaround:

        • If you have a Switch that can run homebrew, then the browser can be accessed with BrowseNX, which bypasses the timeout and allows video content
        • Configuring homebrew however is much more involved than just using the DNS, and should only be done by advanced and/or technical users

        Original post:

        This is a thread to talk about the browser closing on the Nintendo switch when using BrowseDNS or Switchbru DNS... This appears to be a timeout added by Nintendo in FW update 10.0, but the mechanisms of when/why it closes are not known.

        In my experience, I have had both web pages live for a long time (even overnight!) by sleeping the switch or pressing home, and when it decides to close always seems a little random.

        It seems like no matter how many page loads occur, or clicks/scrolls I make, it's determined to shut down. Does anyone have any other experiences or theories about whne it decides to close?

        If the timeout can be better understood, then we may be able to discover a workaround to it. If it's something networking related, for instance, maybe there are changes that can be made to prevent it from closing.

        It would also be interesting to know if this same timeout occurs when using "normal" captive portal airplane/hotel hotspots (which is what the browser applet was made for).

        I will also again plug the petition to Nintendo to unlimited this browser, including removing the timeout.

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        @VGMoose I'm working on identifying the piece of code that tells the console to leave everything running.

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        • lollapaloozaundefined lollapalooza

          @VGMoose I'm working on identifying the piece of code that tells the console to leave everything running.

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          happens to me to if there a way to stop this plz let me know

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          • Elizabethundefined Elizabeth

            @VGMoose

            Its closes on me in 20mins its quite a annoyance I wish it didnt though :(

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            #16

            @Elizabeth said in Browser Timeout: "This Screen will be closed.":

            @VGMoose

            Its closes on me in 20mins its quite a annoyance I wish it didnt though :(

            its super annoying when trying to hold a conversation or roleplay

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            • SnowRunnerLegendundefined SnowRunnerLegend

              @Elizabeth said in Browser Timeout: "This Screen will be closed.":

              @VGMoose

              Its closes on me in 20mins its quite a annoyance I wish it didnt though :(

              its super annoying when trying to hold a conversation or roleplay

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              @SnowRunnerLegend fr q-q

              Probably one of the oldest active people

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              • FuntimeFoxyundefined FuntimeFoxy

                happens to me to if there a way to stop this plz let me know

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                #18

                @FuntimeFoxy

                very annoying

                -Liz

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                  #19

                  I am trying to do some researching by "cronometring" the time for the timeout in various situation like pressing the x button or changing page very 5 minutes ecc. when the results are ready I will make a spreadsheet

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                    thanks :D

                    Probably one of the oldest active people

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                      #21

                      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A5BeOp_-2-25-f30Z7WpWJ_PpFowlbk9VIr0frF45MQ/edit?usp=sharing
                      I finished my tests, I hope I did something that can help the community :)

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                        noice :D

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                        • VGMooseundefined VGMoose

                          EDIT for Feb 3rd, 2024:

                          The summary of this thread's findings is:

                          • This notification will appear after 20 minutes of screen-on time using the browser
                          • The browser will always immediately close after the pop-up
                          • Nintendo has ignored so far the petition asking them to enable the browser

                          Tips:

                          • If you lock the device, you can stretch the total time you have out longer. Screen off time doesn't count against the 20 minutes
                          • If you set up the DNS and then launch the YouTube app instead of doing a Connection Test, it will automatically re-display the browser after timeout happens
                          • You can add top sites and bookmarks to Switchbru for faster access, or submit useful links via the survey on the BrowseDNS landing page

                          About the browser:

                          • The timer is built-into the Switch, and enforced by the Switch's OS
                          • The browser itself is called NetFront, and is made by ACCESS Co
                          • It's possible that there is a deal between Nintendo and ACCESS that limits the usage of the browser (This is only speculation)

                          Homebrew workaround:

                          • If you have a Switch that can run homebrew, then the browser can be accessed with BrowseNX, which bypasses the timeout and allows video content
                          • Configuring homebrew however is much more involved than just using the DNS, and should only be done by advanced and/or technical users

                          Original post:

                          This is a thread to talk about the browser closing on the Nintendo switch when using BrowseDNS or Switchbru DNS... This appears to be a timeout added by Nintendo in FW update 10.0, but the mechanisms of when/why it closes are not known.

                          In my experience, I have had both web pages live for a long time (even overnight!) by sleeping the switch or pressing home, and when it decides to close always seems a little random.

                          It seems like no matter how many page loads occur, or clicks/scrolls I make, it's determined to shut down. Does anyone have any other experiences or theories about whne it decides to close?

                          If the timeout can be better understood, then we may be able to discover a workaround to it. If it's something networking related, for instance, maybe there are changes that can be made to prevent it from closing.

                          It would also be interesting to know if this same timeout occurs when using "normal" captive portal airplane/hotel hotspots (which is what the browser applet was made for).

                          I will also again plug the petition to Nintendo to unlimited this browser, including removing the timeout.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          @VGMoose https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A5BeOp_-2-25-f30Z7WpWJ_PpFowlbk9VIr0frF45MQ/edit?usp=sharing
                          I finished my tests, I hope I did something that can help the community 🙂

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                            #24

                            @Gorzog oh wow that's very useful! Thanks! I didn't realize the timeout was so precisely at 20 minutes. This is for 45.55.142.122? It would be nice if there was some networking-level thing that could be done to stretch it out longer.

                            When I sleep my Switch while in the browser, I am able to get a single page to last for multiple days, but maybe that is due to the total time not yet exceeding 20 minutes. I'll need to get some specific data too.

                            Sign the browser petition! Or visit my site at vgmoose.dev.

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                              I managed to get it to stay on the 'This screen will now be closed' thing for a day in sleep mode.

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                              Ash Ketchum・1997-2023

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                              • VGMooseundefined VGMoose

                                @Gorzog oh wow that's very useful! Thanks! I didn't realize the timeout was so precisely at 20 minutes. This is for 45.55.142.122? It would be nice if there was some networking-level thing that could be done to stretch it out longer.

                                When I sleep my Switch while in the browser, I am able to get a single page to last for multiple days, but maybe that is due to the total time not yet exceeding 20 minutes. I'll need to get some specific data too.

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                                wrote on last edited by Gorzog
                                #26

                                @VGMoose I updated the spreadsheet with another test putting the switch on sleep mode and more info on the system that I used
                                https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A5BeOp_-2-25-f30Z7WpWJ_PpFowlbk9VIr0frF45MQ/edit?usp=sharing

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                                  so i think the sleep process just interrupts the count down , would be worth trying the timed period with a break in sleep mode to determine if the countdown continues where it left off...

                                  so like 10 mins browsing then go to sleep then wake it up and continue the count to see if its the same.

                                  "Don’t waste your words I don’t need anything from you / I don’t care where you’ve been or what you plan to do." - Ian Brown

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                                  • pwsincdundefined pwsincd

                                    so i think the sleep process just interrupts the count down , would be worth trying the timed period with a break in sleep mode to determine if the countdown continues where it left off...

                                    so like 10 mins browsing then go to sleep then wake it up and continue the count to see if its the same.

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                                    @pwsincd The timeout timer when in sleep mode just pauses as you can see here

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                                      did u continue to time it after waking ?

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                                        Yes, the time that I show and on the spreadsheet is the time of 5 minutes of idling then 2 minutes of sleep mode and the rest again in idle

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                                          ah ok interesting info , i assuming that the timeout isn't controlled via the browser then and from the OS somewhere

                                          "Don’t waste your words I don’t need anything from you / I don’t care where you’ve been or what you plan to do." - Ian Brown

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