Charlie Kirk
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@pawthetic yeah i guess i kind of get what youre saying, but i don’t think outrage is selective in the way you're framing it. i lived in minneapolis and experienced the george floyd riots firsthand, nothing about it was selective or priviledge , it was just about humanity. what IS selective is how political bias filters which deaths are acknowledged or ignored. murder, suicide, genocide, none should be minimized from what they are, which is a human life.
@orbital people react how they want to any given situation, people are rioting about the illegal deportations, people are rioting about lgbtq rights violations, all at any given time. someone, somewhere, is always upset about the unjust treatment of someone, and people dont just 'care' about charlie kirk because of who he was. i hate the mf, but that doesnt change the fact that he WAS a person.
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@pawthetic yeah i guess i kind of get what youre saying, but i don’t think outrage is selective in the way you're framing it. i lived in minneapolis and experienced the george floyd riots firsthand, nothing about it was selective or priviledge , it was just about humanity. what IS selective is how political bias filters which deaths are acknowledged or ignored. murder, suicide, genocide, none should be minimized from what they are, which is a human life.
@orbital you get it ever so slightly. im saying that charlotte fosgate is no less human than him but a sliver of people are making posts in her honor such as this one, when she was and is being mocked more than him.
but the SECOND a rich white cishet man gets shot. EVERY LEFTIST IS HORRIBLE AND WE NEED TO GO TO WAR!!!!!!!!!
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id also like to point out how me making a post on her gets locked but this stays up. got it.
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@orbital you get it ever so slightly. im saying that charlotte fosgate is no less human than him but a sliver of people are making posts in her honor such as this one, when she was and is being mocked more than him.
but the SECOND a rich white cishet man gets shot. EVERY LEFTIST IS HORRIBLE AND WE NEED TO GO TO WAR!!!!!!!!!
@pawthetic twin wtf? political rivalries spark constantly and both sides of the spectrum are constantly at eachothers throats. thats not what we're talking about tho.
perhaps the reason charlotte fosgate isnt as widely recognized is because she wasnt an internationally recognized political figure
it doesnt make what happened to her any less terrible, its just the fact that charlie kirk had an audience. a fucking big one. he was shot on NATIONAL television. his gender, his identification, and his background didnt influence the outrage, the fact that he had eyes on him from all over the country, both from supporters and haters, is what caused it.Ya no me enojo contigo
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@pawthetic twin wtf? political rivalries spark constantly and both sides of the spectrum are constantly at eachothers throats. thats not what we're talking about tho.
perhaps the reason charlotte fosgate isnt as widely recognized is because she wasnt an internationally recognized political figure
it doesnt make what happened to her any less terrible, its just the fact that charlie kirk had an audience. a fucking big one. he was shot on NATIONAL television. his gender, his identification, and his background didnt influence the outrage, the fact that he had eyes on him from all over the country, both from supporters and haters, is what caused it.@orbital good point. however; her death was on international social media
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true, but visibility also isnt everything either. before her death she didnt really have a widely known reputation, but ck already had a massive platform. people knew who he was both before and after his death. re-iterating; his opinions and position didnt get him the recognition, his popularity did
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id respond but i lwk forgot what the base of the debate was
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what do you call it like
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the starting topic wtv
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@pawthetic you said charlie kirk is only recognized because hes a cisgender white male
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nono thats not what im saying
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im saying people only care because he is
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@pawthetic and ive given you all the reasons as to why thats bs
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Honestly hearing him yap against gun laws even with constant mass shootings in schools made it kinda poetic that he died with a shot,karma migh be actually real. Hope his family the best tho
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Honestly hearing him yap against gun laws even with constant mass shootings in schools made it kinda poetic that he died with a shot,karma migh be actually real. Hope his family the best tho
@Woof26 yeah to no end am i saying he was a good guy, but for someone to be assassinated for their beliefs is terrifying. people have the stance to learn on "oh he was disagreeable and a zionist!" which is FUNDIMENTALLY TRUE, but you wont be able to lean on that when its someone YOU support. to put it in perspective; the reason people are upset is because a man got shot for nothing more than someone disagreeing with him. that's all his life amounted to, and thats why his life ended. that's not a safe reality for anyone to live in no matter if their beliefs align with yours or not
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Honestly hearing him yap against gun laws even with constant mass shootings in schools made it kinda poetic that he died with a shot,karma migh be actually real. Hope his family the best tho
@Woof26 you cant tell me it isnt karma lets be real
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@Woof26 yeah to no end am i saying he was a good guy, but for someone to be assassinated for their beliefs is terrifying. people have the stance to learn on "oh he was disagreeable and a zionist!" which is FUNDIMENTALLY TRUE, but you wont be able to lean on that when its someone YOU support. to put it in perspective; the reason people are upset is because a man got shot for nothing more than someone disagreeing with him. that's all his life amounted to, and thats why his life ended. that's not a safe reality for anyone to live in no matter if their beliefs align with yours or not
@orbital Of course, political violence is terrible n dystopian as hell n should not be encouraged,im just saying i dont feel bad abt the dude being gone
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@orbital Of course, political violence is terrible n dystopian as hell n should not be encouraged,im just saying i dont feel bad abt the dude being gone
@Woof26 PREAACHH
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she/her if you use he/him on me i will hunt you down and kill you :heart:
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@pawthetic twin why are you acting like i just got checkmated or sum
i AGREE with wolf and understand their point. yours is leaned very far into systematic bias thoughYa no me enojo contigo
Solo observo y pienso
"me decepcionó"
Y alejo más de ti
Porque yo ya no quiero sufrir
Quiero ser feliz
