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yall can we unban Johnny now???

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  • Ariesundefined Aries

    @_Izzy_

    It's not like this is the only time he's been banned, he was given other chances but yet still continued with the behaviour up until recently, according to you. A staff member tried being helpful and told him to submit an appeal (which is what all staff are told to say) and he replied with utter disrespect calling them a bıtch. I don't know what you expected, especially when he was apparently trying to change his ways but then reverting back to being rude. Misunderstanding for the original ban or not, he should've thought about it before posting. Anyone could excuse a post being playful but it still doesn't change what's been said. Imagine if all bans were let off just by what the banned person excused their actions with without any proper evidence.

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    @Aries said in yall can we unban Johnny now???:

    @_Izzy_

    It's not like this is the only time he's been banned, he was given other chances but yet still continued with the behaviour up until recently, according to you. A staff member tried being helpful and told him to submit an appeal (which is what all staff are told to say) and he replied with utter disrespect calling them a bıtch. I don't know what you expected, especially when he was apparently trying to change his ways but then reverting back to being rude. Misunderstanding for the original ban or not, he should've thought about it before posting. Anyone could excuse a post being playful but it still doesn't change what's been said. Imagine if all bans were let off just by what the banned person excused their actions with without any proper evidence.

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      @_Izzy_

      It's not like this is the only time he's been banned, he was given other chances but yet still continued with the behaviour up until recently, according to you. A staff member tried being helpful and told him to submit an appeal (which is what all staff are told to say) and he replied with utter disrespect calling them a bıtch. I don't know what you expected, especially when he was apparently trying to change his ways but then reverting back to being rude. Misunderstanding for the original ban or not, he should've thought about it before posting. Anyone could excuse a post being playful but it still doesn't change what's been said. Imagine if all bans were let off just by what the banned person excused their actions with without any proper evidence.

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      @Aries girl if you just want a excuse to be pretentious just say that, you're genuinely so unserious TvT

      also calling someone a b*tch offsight doesnt justify a perma ban, perma bans are literally supposed to be reserved for actually serious things, im not tryna accuse anyone of anything but i do feel like he was only perma ban because it was targeted towards raven (not tryna argue just saying)

      anyways ima stop b*tching before this post gets locked, i wana see if other users would mind him being unban

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      • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

        @Aries girl if you just want a excuse to be pretentious just say that, you're genuinely so unserious TvT

        also calling someone a b*tch offsight doesnt justify a perma ban, perma bans are literally supposed to be reserved for actually serious things, im not tryna accuse anyone of anything but i do feel like he was only perma ban because it was targeted towards raven (not tryna argue just saying)

        anyways ima stop b*tching before this post gets locked, i wana see if other users would mind him being unban

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        @_Izzy_

        I was giving what I thought would be a staff view on things because I have prior experience. I can just be serious sometimes, there's nothing really funny about this or jokey. Don't get all offended just because I have an opinion that differs from your own. After all, you stated before that you'd like to keep things civil, did you not?

        As for the bıtch thing, I think that it only became permanent because of his previous actions adding up with this one (if that makes sense) If it was just the bıtch thing itself, then no it wouldn't warrant a perma ban.

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          @_Izzy_

          I was giving what I thought would be a staff view on things because I have prior experience. I can just be serious sometimes, there's nothing really funny about this or jokey. Don't get all offended just because I have an opinion that differs from your own. After all, you stated before that you'd like to keep things civil, did you not?

          As for the bıtch thing, I think that it only became permanent because of his previous actions adding up with this one (if that makes sense) If it was just the bıtch thing itself, then no it wouldn't warrant a perma ban.

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          @Aries im not offended its just the response felt unnecessary, i already get the staffs view, i know theyre gonna try to justify it with his past actions, im not [censored] TvT

          anyways even if its bc of his past actions (which still werent that bad and his ban before the ban i mentioed in this post was him saying smth to someone after THEY started it and spamburger even acknowledged that they started it) i still feel like its unjustified especially since alot of users were lowkey going out of there way to argue with him at one point (the post abt us breaking up as a joke that he asked to be locked bc ppl were turning it into a argument, the situation with tarmac crashing out bc he joked abt their response not answering the post question, only for them to make up later btw, the gf reveal post that was locked for no reason, where a mod disrespected him before he could even see or respond to the ppl who were supposedly arguing, and theres likely more examples i cant think of off the top of my head) It felt like yall were just LOOKING for a excuse to ban him

          mb for the yap sess, im done dragging this convo now

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            @Aries im not offended its just the response felt unnecessary, i already get the staffs view, i know theyre gonna try to justify it with his past actions, im not [censored] TvT

            anyways even if its bc of his past actions (which still werent that bad and his ban before the ban i mentioed in this post was him saying smth to someone after THEY started it and spamburger even acknowledged that they started it) i still feel like its unjustified especially since alot of users were lowkey going out of there way to argue with him at one point (the post abt us breaking up as a joke that he asked to be locked bc ppl were turning it into a argument, the situation with tarmac crashing out bc he joked abt their response not answering the post question, only for them to make up later btw, the gf reveal post that was locked for no reason, where a mod disrespected him before he could even see or respond to the ppl who were supposedly arguing, and theres likely more examples i cant think of off the top of my head) It felt like yall were just LOOKING for a excuse to ban him

            mb for the yap sess, im done dragging this convo now

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            @_Izzy_

            My last reply, don't worry. But I never wanted johnny banned, I think it'd be a bit dumb to think that, especially knowing that i'd probably get an equal consequence. I never really liked him, but I never really felt as though I had it 'out' for him. If he did something I didn't like, i'd tell him but I think towards the end we were okay with eachother

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              If you are banned and continue to disrespect staff, that justifies a permanent ban any day of the week and if our moderators were certainly disrespected by him I would have done the exact same thing regardless. I'm sure our staff would certainly agree with me here.

              You are acting like Johnny was the only people we were removing during that time period; multiple other trolls and individuals were removed as well. Do not sit here and turn the tables on us like we did something wrong, WE did our duties and that's it. Admit he messed up and even if he didn't, he certainly did by calling me an offensive term. Our decisions will always be judgemental based mixed with our current policies as well. @Almond would certainly have banned him permanently if he openly disrespected Maribitt or any members of our staff just like I did.

              Regardless, we tell you to block people and you don't (so why should we have to take the time to unban you when you appeal if you don't listen??). Doesn't quite make much sense. We tell all of you the same thing all the time. It is no longer our problem and I do not expect our staff to put up with this continuous foolishness.

              We do not tolerate this behavior from anyone so do not make it seem like we made a simple exception just when he does it.


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              • Ravenundefined Raven

                If you are banned and continue to disrespect staff, that justifies a permanent ban any day of the week and if our moderators were certainly disrespected by him I would have done the exact same thing regardless. I'm sure our staff would certainly agree with me here.

                You are acting like Johnny was the only people we were removing during that time period; multiple other trolls and individuals were removed as well. Do not sit here and turn the tables on us like we did something wrong, WE did our duties and that's it. Admit he messed up and even if he didn't, he certainly did by calling me an offensive term. Our decisions will always be judgemental based mixed with our current policies as well. @Almond would certainly have banned him permanently if he openly disrespected Maribitt or any members of our staff just like I did.

                Regardless, we tell you to block people and you don't (so why should we have to take the time to unban you when you appeal if you don't listen??). Doesn't quite make much sense. We tell all of you the same thing all the time. It is no longer our problem and I do not expect our staff to put up with this continuous foolishness.

                We do not tolerate this behavior from anyone so do not make it seem like we made a simple exception just when he does it.

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                @Raven what does the blocking ppl thing have to do with this? he wasnt ban for argueing with anyone and did end up blocking the ppl who had issues with him TvT

                anyways i get your point and i already said ofc hes gonna get punished for calling a mod a b*tch but still seems unreasonable and like a REALLY dragged out punishment
                also like i said you guys did do smth wrong bc the original post being ban was a misunderstanding TvT

                i know your tired of me talking abt it but ill stop as soon as you stop repling trying to justify it, lock the post (which would be unfair bc theres nothing wrong with me expressing my disagreement) or unban him:p

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                  It's all justified, that's the bottom line. Get over it.


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                    nor is it a stretch. He went from a 1 year ban to a permanent ban for calling me a [censored] when I tried helping in. I do not care how special he is to you, nor do I care about him being sorry for his actions. He made a mistake and will learn from them like everyone else does.


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                    • Ravenundefined Raven

                      nor is it a stretch. He went from a 1 year ban to a permanent ban for calling me a [censored] when I tried helping in. I do not care how special he is to you, nor do I care about him being sorry for his actions. He made a mistake and will learn from them like everyone else does.

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                      @Raven WOAH WOAH WOAH

                      it was never a one year ban??????? it was a month!!! thats a BIG difference!

                      and im pretty sure it was supposed to be shortened to two weeks!

                      raven i think your like remembering this whole thing to have been WAY worse then it actually was, no wonder your not tryna unban him TvT

                      the fact that you just said that definitely proves its NOT justified

                      also you could have just ban him from the discord server permanently since it was off site and on there TvT

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                      • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

                        @Raven WOAH WOAH WOAH

                        it was never a one year ban??????? it was a month!!! thats a BIG difference!

                        and im pretty sure it was supposed to be shortened to two weeks!

                        raven i think your like remembering this whole thing to have been WAY worse then it actually was, no wonder your not tryna unban him TvT

                        the fact that you just said that definitely proves its NOT justified

                        also you could have just ban him from the discord server permanently since it was off site and on there TvT

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                        @_Izzy_ said in yall can we unban Johnny now???:

                        @Raven WOAH WOAH WOAH

                        it was never a one year ban??????? it was a month!!! thats a BIG difference!

                        and im pretty sure it was supposed to be shortened to two weeks!

                        raven i think your like remembering this whole thing to have been WAY worse then it actually was, no wonder your not tryna unban him TvT

                        that's still not my point, either way he was banned and was disrespectful to staff. Adding up all the previous incidents to this is why he was banned. I remember the entire situation, I made a mistake on the Ban Duration, I mistook it for a year.

                        He's not getting unbanned, stop crying about it. That's final.


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                        • Ravenundefined Raven

                          @_Izzy_ said in yall can we unban Johnny now???:

                          @Raven WOAH WOAH WOAH

                          it was never a one year ban??????? it was a month!!! thats a BIG difference!

                          and im pretty sure it was supposed to be shortened to two weeks!

                          raven i think your like remembering this whole thing to have been WAY worse then it actually was, no wonder your not tryna unban him TvT

                          that's still not my point, either way he was banned and was disrespectful to staff. Adding up all the previous incidents to this is why he was banned. I remember the entire situation, I made a mistake on the Ban Duration, I mistook it for a year.

                          He's not getting unbanned, stop crying about it. That's final.

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                          @Raven well if he was perma ban bc u thought it was originally a year, shouldnt he only be ban for a year MAX if it was a month????

                          like i said it feels like you just want a excuse to perma ban him

                          and even then a year is stillll pretty OD, and his two previous incidents and even past ones dont warrant all this:p

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                            @Raven well if he was perma ban bc u thought it was originally a year, shouldnt he only be ban for a year MAX if it was a month????

                            like i said it feels like you just want a excuse to perma ban him

                            and even then a year is stillll pretty OD, and his two previous incidents and even past ones dont warrant all this:p

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                            @_Izzy_ said in yall can we unban Johnny now???:

                            @Raven well if he was perma ban bc u tought it was originally a year, shouldnt he only be ban for a year MAX if it was a month????

                            like i said it feels like you just want a excuse to perma ban him:p

                            and even then a year is stillll pretty OD

                            You must have misunderstood what I said (I said stop crying about it if that wasn't clear enough).

                            I made a mistake and put a year instead of a month as I was doing a lot a one time. Nobody wanted an excuse to permanent ban him, I quite literally OFFERED him the opportunity to appeal it. Do not start that accusing bullshit. I told you what it was, move on. He will not be unbanned until it's appealed.


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                            • Ravenundefined Raven

                              @_Izzy_ said in yall can we unban Johnny now???:

                              @Raven well if he was perma ban bc u tought it was originally a year, shouldnt he only be ban for a year MAX if it was a month????

                              like i said it feels like you just want a excuse to perma ban him:p

                              and even then a year is stillll pretty OD

                              You must have misunderstood what I said (I said stop crying about it if that wasn't clear enough).

                              I made a mistake and put a year instead of a month as I was doing a lot a one time. Nobody wanted an excuse to permanent ban him, I quite literally OFFERED him the opportunity to appeal it. Do not start that accusing bullshit. I told you what it was, move on. He will not be unbanned until it's appealed.

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                              @Raven im not accusing just saying it DOES look like you just wanted a excuse (to me atleast, and im allowed to say that.)

                              also the whole reason the argument happened was because he had ALREADY submitted a appeal and the ban was supposed to be shortened to two weeks (but wasnt for some reason)

                              im not crying abt it but like i said if you keep replying ima respond lol

                              but if you are willing to let him appeal again ill tell him and we'll both appreciate it alot, though im pretty sure he did submit one yesterday

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