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  • Shockrat
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    communism isn't inherently bad. The execution will always fail, but the idea itself solves tons of the worlds problems. as would removing currency systems and using actual trades, but i digress.

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      its not; capitalism is tho and many people think capitalism is communism so theyll tell u communism is bad

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        communism isn't inherently bad. The execution will always fail, but the idea itself solves tons of the worlds problems. as would removing currency systems and using actual trades, but i digress.

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        @Shockrat true, the only real major flaw in the system is the fact that it doesn't factor in corruption and some people being just absolutely evil for no reason tbh. If everyone somehow had common sense, were less selfish, worked hard to improve their own lives and the lives of the people around them, and had basic human empathy at all times then the execution would probably work out (capitalism in this better world would also just end up becoming a redundant waste of paper, since most people would just help eachother out anyway), but wayyyyyyy too many people don't have any of those traits so the execution just always fails.

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          I personally agree with Karl Marx's idea of communism.

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            I've heard a lot of things about it- just mainly that it works on paper, but not in real life, theoretically?

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            • A Former User? A Former User

              I've heard a lot of things about it- just mainly that it works on paper, but not in real life, theoretically?

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              @Barbghibe yeah basically, although it's not just theoretically, i read that pretty much every irl large-scale application of communism has failed or is currently failing miserably (though that stat might include failures caused by outside intervention)

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                bc its unfair to the people who work harder then others and makes it way harder to own your own business and gives people less financial freedom

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                @_Izzy_ capitalism = financial freedom literally when

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                  wait im confused what did i say that was wrong? isnt communism when the government pays everyone equally??? i dont get how thats capitalism, capitalism gives ppl control over the economy (and while big companies suck we the ppl have the choice to not give them our money and support small businesses thus WE control the economy)?????? did i misunderstand? how tf is that capitalism?

                  i think that communisim is dumb and unfair and more dangerous then capitalism, almost all communist governments are lowkey oppressive, and like i said equality isnt necessarily fair, ppl who work harder should get paid more and hav control over their own businesses and money

                  IMO americans who think communism is better then capitalism are silly and are ignorant to their privilege bc capitalism gives us a certain freedom ppl in communist countries dont have:p (it does suck for ppl who are poor tho but communism still isnt the answer)

                  (both OBVIOUSLY have their pros and cons but saying communisim is good feels rllllly ignorant, ESPECIALLY if your an American TvT)

                  i think welfare capitalism sounds cool bc the idea is that ppl get their basic needs but still have economic freedom i think:P so poor or
                  disabled or elderly ppl can still get what they need to survive
                  if it works well in practice i think its something America should try out

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                  @_Izzy_ welfare is actually implemented due to left-wing policies, besides capitalism is actually not financial freedom since most brands are owned by the same 7 mega corporations, (ex. nestle, unicef, pepsico) and capitalism can only work with strategic poverty. socialism is probably the farthest a country can realistically get to without intervening from capitalist western countries, but that still also gives workers the means of owning their own production.

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                    @_Izzy_ welfare is actually implemented due to left-wing policies, besides capitalism is actually not financial freedom since most brands are owned by the same 7 mega corporations, (ex. nestle, unicef, pepsico) and capitalism can only work with strategic poverty. socialism is probably the farthest a country can realistically get to without intervening from capitalist western countries, but that still also gives workers the means of owning their own production.

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                      wasnt thre a book abt this i forgot the name of it tho
                      it was something like pig farm or smth

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                        communism failed cuz ppl didnt factor in corruption

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                          wasnt thre a book abt this i forgot the name of it tho
                          it was something like pig farm or smth

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                            YES thats the name
                            my mom made me read it when i was like 10
                            i couldnt understand shii

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                              YES thats the name
                              my mom made me read it when i was like 10
                              i couldnt understand shii

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                                @Idyll the movie adaptation of that book was so [censored] (it censors ahh)

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                                • brirightback brirightback

                                  @_Izzy_ welfare is actually implemented due to left-wing policies, besides capitalism is actually not financial freedom since most brands are owned by the same 7 mega corporations, (ex. nestle, unicef, pepsico) and capitalism can only work with strategic poverty. socialism is probably the farthest a country can realistically get to without intervening from capitalist western countries, but that still also gives workers the means of owning their own production.

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                                  i dont think saying that most companies are owned by the same companies means we dont have financial freedom bc for every big company theres a smaller business tryna do the same shit its just that most ppl CHOOSE big companies for convince:p

                                  (even things like social media that use stuff to train ai, sum person made basically instagram for artist after it started using ppls art for ai, another example is buyingfrom a family owned taco truck instead of toca bell or a farmers market instead of walmart)

                                  obviously there are bigger companies that are harder to avoid bc they outcompete any smaller company (like eversource i think) but we CAN try to fight bck through boycotting or trying to find other alternatives its just hard, which all change is

                                  i actually think that having ppl who are lower class/poor is inevitable, i think instead of trying to avoid that we should just raise the standard as for what that lowclass will look like (by providing basic needs somehow and distributing resources better bc we HAVE enough resources to make sure everyone in the country is atleast well fed) so even poor ppl can live decently and have a good chance at becoming successful
                                  we ALSO have enough money to make every public school in the country WAYYYY better but instead we keep CUTTING founding when education and being well fed are kinda the most important things to succeed in life besides hard work TvT

                                  i dont know alot abt this stuff but i think capitalism is fine we just haven't perfected it and need to support eachother instead of big companies ofc its easier said then done:p

                                  P.S i dont get what welfare being leftist has to do with anything, mb bc like i said im not too educated on this stuff but i feel like the labels dont matter (i could be totally wrong tho bc im ignorant to this kinda stuff)

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                                    i dont think saying that most companies are owned by the same companies means we dont have financial freedom bc for every big company theres a smaller business tryna do the same shit its just that most ppl CHOOSE big companies for convince:p

                                    (even things like social media that use stuff to train ai, sum person made basically instagram for artist after it started using ppls art for ai, another example is buyingfrom a family owned taco truck instead of toca bell or a farmers market instead of walmart)

                                    obviously there are bigger companies that are harder to avoid bc they outcompete any smaller company (like eversource i think) but we CAN try to fight bck through boycotting or trying to find other alternatives its just hard, which all change is

                                    i actually think that having ppl who are lower class/poor is inevitable, i think instead of trying to avoid that we should just raise the standard as for what that lowclass will look like (by providing basic needs somehow and distributing resources better bc we HAVE enough resources to make sure everyone in the country is atleast well fed) so even poor ppl can live decently and have a good chance at becoming successful
                                    we ALSO have enough money to make every public school in the country WAYYYY better but instead we keep CUTTING founding when education and being well fed are kinda the most important things to succeed in life besides hard work TvT

                                    i dont know alot abt this stuff but i think capitalism is fine we just haven't perfected it and need to support eachother instead of big companies ofc its easier said then done:p

                                    P.S i dont get what welfare being leftist has to do with anything, mb bc like i said im not too educated on this stuff but i feel like the labels dont matter (i could be totally wrong tho bc im ignorant to this kinda stuff)

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                                    @_Izzy_ i get what u mean but like exploitation of workers and that overall class (majority in most if not every country) can't be escaped with capitalism installed. besides proposing a redistribution of resorces fairly is lit socialism or actually more communist leaning.

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                                      i dont think saying that most companies are owned by the same companies means we dont have financial freedom bc for every big company theres a smaller business tryna do the same shit its just that most ppl CHOOSE big companies for convince:p

                                      (even things like social media that use stuff to train ai, sum person made basically instagram for artist after it started using ppls art for ai, another example is buyingfrom a family owned taco truck instead of toca bell or a farmers market instead of walmart)

                                      obviously there are bigger companies that are harder to avoid bc they outcompete any smaller company (like eversource i think) but we CAN try to fight bck through boycotting or trying to find other alternatives its just hard, which all change is

                                      i actually think that having ppl who are lower class/poor is inevitable, i think instead of trying to avoid that we should just raise the standard as for what that lowclass will look like (by providing basic needs somehow and distributing resources better bc we HAVE enough resources to make sure everyone in the country is atleast well fed) so even poor ppl can live decently and have a good chance at becoming successful
                                      we ALSO have enough money to make every public school in the country WAYYYY better but instead we keep CUTTING founding when education and being well fed are kinda the most important things to succeed in life besides hard work TvT

                                      i dont know alot abt this stuff but i think capitalism is fine we just haven't perfected it and need to support eachother instead of big companies ofc its easier said then done:p

                                      P.S i dont get what welfare being leftist has to do with anything, mb bc like i said im not too educated on this stuff but i feel like the labels dont matter (i could be totally wrong tho bc im ignorant to this kinda stuff)

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                                      @_Izzy_ i believe societies should be socialist, if its in favor of the people. if people hate child labor, 16+ hour work days, 0 insurance comp for injury on the job, sick+vacation days, and unfair expulsion from their job...why do they agree with capitalism. a system literally made AGAINST them. (i say this because i think ALL of these issues i listed earlier were abolished because of communist+socialist policies. ex. Vladimir Lenin USSR)

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                                        i dont think saying that most companies are owned by the same companies means we dont have financial freedom bc for every big company theres a smaller business tryna do the same shit its just that most ppl CHOOSE big companies for convince:p

                                        (even things like social media that use stuff to train ai, sum person made basically instagram for artist after it started using ppls art for ai, another example is buyingfrom a family owned taco truck instead of toca bell or a farmers market instead of walmart)

                                        obviously there are bigger companies that are harder to avoid bc they outcompete any smaller company (like eversource i think) but we CAN try to fight bck through boycotting or trying to find other alternatives its just hard, which all change is

                                        i actually think that having ppl who are lower class/poor is inevitable, i think instead of trying to avoid that we should just raise the standard as for what that lowclass will look like (by providing basic needs somehow and distributing resources better bc we HAVE enough resources to make sure everyone in the country is atleast well fed) so even poor ppl can live decently and have a good chance at becoming successful
                                        we ALSO have enough money to make every public school in the country WAYYYY better but instead we keep CUTTING founding when education and being well fed are kinda the most important things to succeed in life besides hard work TvT

                                        i dont know alot abt this stuff but i think capitalism is fine we just haven't perfected it and need to support eachother instead of big companies ofc its easier said then done:p

                                        P.S i dont get what welfare being leftist has to do with anything, mb bc like i said im not too educated on this stuff but i feel like the labels dont matter (i could be totally wrong tho bc im ignorant to this kinda stuff)

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                                        @_Izzy_ It doesn't matter how many of us continue not to buy from them or support them, they already have enough mone to support the next 3 generations. Hel|, Taylor Swift is a literal trillionare. She will NEVER have any way of going into poverty. The capitalistic government is not one that we have hope of fixing. Our best bet is to scrap and try something else.

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                                          i dont think saying that most companies are owned by the same companies means we dont have financial freedom bc for every big company theres a smaller business tryna do the same shit its just that most ppl CHOOSE big companies for convince:p

                                          (even things like social media that use stuff to train ai, sum person made basically instagram for artist after it started using ppls art for ai, another example is buyingfrom a family owned taco truck instead of toca bell or a farmers market instead of walmart)

                                          obviously there are bigger companies that are harder to avoid bc they outcompete any smaller company (like eversource i think) but we CAN try to fight bck through boycotting or trying to find other alternatives its just hard, which all change is

                                          i actually think that having ppl who are lower class/poor is inevitable, i think instead of trying to avoid that we should just raise the standard as for what that lowclass will look like (by providing basic needs somehow and distributing resources better bc we HAVE enough resources to make sure everyone in the country is atleast well fed) so even poor ppl can live decently and have a good chance at becoming successful
                                          we ALSO have enough money to make every public school in the country WAYYYY better but instead we keep CUTTING founding when education and being well fed are kinda the most important things to succeed in life besides hard work TvT

                                          i dont know alot abt this stuff but i think capitalism is fine we just haven't perfected it and need to support eachother instead of big companies ofc its easier said then done:p

                                          P.S i dont get what welfare being leftist has to do with anything, mb bc like i said im not too educated on this stuff but i feel like the labels dont matter (i could be totally wrong tho bc im ignorant to this kinda stuff)

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                                          @_Izzy_ also, the whole providing basic needs to the poor is literally the whole idea of communism. it puts all humans on even ground, on paper. That's why rich capitalists all hate the idea and poor people love it. It evenly distributes the power, allowing society to grow as an intertwined group, like it should always have. The problem is, the rich people fom earlier all fight it as hard as possible, all while the government systems that are supposed to implement it exploit it for their own benefit, thus creating an imbalance and tilting the power back to themselves, thus it's no longer communism, it's just capitalism in disguise. hence we say that communism will not and has never worked in practice.

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