Charlie Kirk
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true, but visibility also isnt everything either. before her death she didnt really have a widely known reputation, but ck already had a massive platform. people knew who he was both before and after his death. re-iterating; his opinions and position didnt get him the recognition, his popularity did
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id respond but i lwk forgot what the base of the debate was
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what do you call it like
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the starting topic wtv
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@pawthetic you said charlie kirk is only recognized because hes a cisgender white male
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nono thats not what im saying
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im saying people only care because he is
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@pawthetic and ive given you all the reasons as to why thats bs


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Honestly hearing him yap against gun laws even with constant mass shootings in schools made it kinda poetic that he died with a shot,karma migh be actually real. Hope his family the best tho
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Honestly hearing him yap against gun laws even with constant mass shootings in schools made it kinda poetic that he died with a shot,karma migh be actually real. Hope his family the best tho
@Woof26 yeah to no end am i saying he was a good guy, but for someone to be assassinated for their beliefs is terrifying. people have the stance to learn on "oh he was disagreeable and a zionist!" which is FUNDIMENTALLY TRUE, but you wont be able to lean on that when its someone YOU support. to put it in perspective; the reason people are upset is because a man got shot for nothing more than someone disagreeing with him. that's all his life amounted to, and thats why his life ended. that's not a safe reality for anyone to live in no matter if their beliefs align with yours or not
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Honestly hearing him yap against gun laws even with constant mass shootings in schools made it kinda poetic that he died with a shot,karma migh be actually real. Hope his family the best tho
@Woof26 you cant tell me it isnt karma lets be real
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@Woof26 yeah to no end am i saying he was a good guy, but for someone to be assassinated for their beliefs is terrifying. people have the stance to learn on "oh he was disagreeable and a zionist!" which is FUNDIMENTALLY TRUE, but you wont be able to lean on that when its someone YOU support. to put it in perspective; the reason people are upset is because a man got shot for nothing more than someone disagreeing with him. that's all his life amounted to, and thats why his life ended. that's not a safe reality for anyone to live in no matter if their beliefs align with yours or not
@orbital Of course, political violence is terrible n dystopian as hell n should not be encouraged,im just saying i dont feel bad abt the dude being gone
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@orbital Of course, political violence is terrible n dystopian as hell n should not be encouraged,im just saying i dont feel bad abt the dude being gone
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@pawthetic twin why are you acting like i just got checkmated or sum

i AGREE with wolf and understand their point. yours is leaned very far into systematic bias though -
@pawthetic twin why are you acting like i just got checkmated or sum

i AGREE with wolf and understand their point. yours is leaned very far into systematic bias though@orbital im not..? im agreeing with them??
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@orbital you get it ever so slightly. im saying that charlotte fosgate is no less human than him but a sliver of people are making posts in her honor such as this one, when she was and is being mocked more than him.
but the SECOND a rich white cishet man gets shot. EVERY LEFTIST IS HORRIBLE AND WE NEED TO GO TO WAR!!!!!!!!!
@pawthetic Yeah you act like their aren't a share of people who cared for the trans suicide too- OBVIOUSLY there aren't gonna be as many but that DEFINITELY isn't due to race or gender as you are glossing over the fact that hardly anyone on the left is hurt by this. The care stems from the fact he was a large political figure, and I see TONS OF PEOPLE mock his death, to which you've seemed to turn a blind eye to because you, like many others, disagree with him and have no reason to care. I'm absolutely positive trans folk laughed at his death as he opposed LGTBQ+ and while I heavily disagree with 98% of his views, I find it terrible to laugh at ANYONE'S death. And stop trying to argue like 89% of the population is homophobic, nowadays most democrats and even a lot of republicans are in support. Just because one suicide got mocked (Which is terrible, I agree with you), doesn't make everyone racist and transphobic. Ultimately there is ALWAYS going to be two sides of a coin, the more well know you are the more people to your aid.
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@pawthetic okay, but youre going out of your way to resist what i'm saying, yet agree with someone else on something that i too agree with
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@pawthetic Yeah you act like their aren't a share of people who cared for the trans suicide too- OBVIOUSLY there aren't gonna be as many but that DEFINITELY isn't due to race or gender as you are glossing over the fact that hardly anyone on the left is hurt by this. The care stems from the fact he was a large political figure, and I see TONS OF PEOPLE mock his death, to which you've seemed to turn a blind eye to because you, like many others, disagree with him and have no reason to care. I'm absolutely positive trans folk laughed at his death as he opposed LGTBQ+ and while I heavily disagree with 98% of his views, I find it terrible to laugh at ANYONE'S death. And stop trying to argue like 89% of the population is homophobic, nowadays most democrats and even a lot of republicans are in support. Just because one suicide got mocked (Which is terrible, I agree with you), doesn't make everyone racist and transphobic. Ultimately there is ALWAYS going to be two sides of a coin, the more well know you are the more people to your aid.
@NightmareWolfie i never said theres NO ONE talking about trans suicide
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i hate how were acting like i never say the words "alot" or "most" or "almost never". i have never claimed that theres no one mocking him. i have never claimed nobody cares for her