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  • Idyllundefined Idyll

    Excellent opinion essay. I find myself in complete agreement with every point you have listed. Though, might I add, I also find the usage of AI in cheating also repulsive to the highest order. It is fine if you use it in learning; to find out why something is the way it is, or to get a quick summary on something you want to research in detail (if absolutely necessary). But, using it to cheat is akin to watering an entire flower field with herbicide just to kill a weed. Sure, you have solved one temporary problem, but you have created 10 more long term ones. It is a mere hydra game in disguise.

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    @Idyll thank you so much!! And while I can see the benefits on it being used to study or like you said find out WHY something is done it definitely shouldn't be depended on because in the end it's only saying information it has gathered from PEOPLE. And it is very possible that the info AI gets from is wrong as well!

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    • seesawundefined seesaw

      @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 I've honestly been thinking about doing an assignment on this for my language arts class but the opportunity has not happened yet ... Soon tho 👅👅!!!

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      @seesaw lmao, my class recently did an essay about the use of technology. This could've been a really good submission honestly, all it needs is some cited sources, but other than that, it's generally a really good take of Artificial intelligence 👅

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        @seesaw lmao, my class recently did an essay about the use of technology. This could've been a really good submission honestly, all it needs is some cited sources, but other than that, it's generally a really good take of Artificial intelligence 👅

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        @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 Thank you twin 🥹🥹 I appreciate you gang, we JUST woke up. But I'm really hoping to have an opportunity to make an essay about this

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          First of all I am not trying to start arguments, I'm only trying to inform so this will probably be a really long rant and I apologize if there is any incorrect info but I feel like people are just brushing it off... But it really IS that deep..
          (This includes stuff such as chat got, chai, character ai, gemini and more)
          In case you don't wanna read all that my points are:
          Uses our fresh water to cool it's data centers
          Releases carbon emissions (this causes global warming)
          Is mostly trained by stolen works
          Even if you use as a therapist, the AI is naturally meant to agree with the user and find ways as to why they are "right" (obviously, doesn't have any actual morals)
          Can be used to generate just about anything including nsfw content with unconsenting people. (This has been done, and people are doing this with actual children)

          First off, WHY is generative AI bad?? To start off, it is causing a lot of issues ENVIRONMENTALLY. While one response from ai doesn't equal a gallon of water lost, it still uses it. Because data centers are used to train generative ai such as Chat GPT and other popular artificial intelligence. And data centers heat up, which requires water to cool down. But it's not just using any water, it's using OUR freshwater. That 3 percent that is on our earth is being used to cool down data centers!

          Second reason is that the amount of electricity AI uses. Ai takes about 2.9 watt-hours of electricity just to generate a response, while doing a single Google search is JUST 0.3 watt-hours. Because of the amount of energy generative AI uses (this doesn't just apply to AI but it requires a lot of electricity) it is releasing tons of carbon emissions. In case you dont know why this is bad, this is one of the many factors of GLOBAL WARMING. Yes, there are many other things that cause it but by stopping the use of generative AI we have one less factor to worry about.

          Now onto morally WHY generative AI is bad, which I hope is obvious... Is that it is mostly trained by STOLEN works. This is mostly seen with art done by people, but this can include forms of writing. Ai is replacing people's jobs because it is more "efficient" and is typically free. But people who have spent their lives dedicating to something they enjoy, are not able to due to the fact it's so easy for them to be replaced by ai.

          And I understand how some people is works as an alternative for a therapist if you for any reason can't have one... But AI is not programmed to actually give you advice, it is program to just naturally AGREE with the user. No matter what problem it will try to find reasons to as why your "right". This is most likely so that way it can make the user more engaged, because why would you wanna spend time with something that always disagrees with you?

          This is not only it, but with AI you can generate just a about ANYTHING. And I don't wanna get too nsfw, but this is becoming a huge Internet safety problem because people can make just about anything your face for THEIR pleasure. And this HAS happened to many unconsenting people. Including CHILDREN.

          There are many more problems as too why generative AI is bad, but this is about all I will cover for now! Against sorry for this being so long but I think it's really important people know about this. Sorry if I got anything incorrect!

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          @seesaw This is a very good writing, and yeah, AI agrees with everything- it has even encouraged criminal/suicidal behaviors, causing actual death.
          I have first hand experience of incorrect people using AI for validation, and this causes actual issues, such as an unnecessary boost of confidence in misinformation.
          I know someone who took art in college, and was very bothered by the 'AI art', which people used when they were too lazy/stingy to get a real compentent artist, and this person wrote a multiple page essay which covers the points you've brought up, so I'm very interested.
          It's my opinion that AI use should be limited to numbers, summaries, and small tasks. People misuse AI, and AI has no actual morals, so it is all up to the people...

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            @seesaw This is a very good writing, and yeah, AI agrees with everything- it has even encouraged criminal/suicidal behaviors, causing actual death.
            I have first hand experience of incorrect people using AI for validation, and this causes actual issues, such as an unnecessary boost of confidence in misinformation.
            I know someone who took art in college, and was very bothered by the 'AI art', which people used when they were too lazy/stingy to get a real compentent artist, and this person wrote a multiple page essay which covers the points you've brought up, so I'm very interested.
            It's my opinion that AI use should be limited to numbers, summaries, and small tasks. People misuse AI, and AI has no actual morals, so it is all up to the people...

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            @spamburger this proves my point even more!! And honestly AI should only be used to do the "chores" I don't wanna do so I can do the actual things I love, and it should not be the other way around! It just is unnecessary overall and we were fine before it, so it's sad to see people feel like they need validation from AI too make themselves feel better :((

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            • seesawundefined seesaw

              @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 Thank you twin 🥹🥹 I appreciate you gang, we JUST woke up. But I'm really hoping to have an opportunity to make an essay about this

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              @seesaw atp, ask your teacher if you can use this for extra credit 🔥🔥

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                First of all I am not trying to start arguments, I'm only trying to inform so this will probably be a really long rant and I apologize if there is any incorrect info but I feel like people are just brushing it off... But it really IS that deep..
                (This includes stuff such as chat got, chai, character ai, gemini and more)
                In case you don't wanna read all that my points are:
                Uses our fresh water to cool it's data centers
                Releases carbon emissions (this causes global warming)
                Is mostly trained by stolen works
                Even if you use as a therapist, the AI is naturally meant to agree with the user and find ways as to why they are "right" (obviously, doesn't have any actual morals)
                Can be used to generate just about anything including nsfw content with unconsenting people. (This has been done, and people are doing this with actual children)

                First off, WHY is generative AI bad?? To start off, it is causing a lot of issues ENVIRONMENTALLY. While one response from ai doesn't equal a gallon of water lost, it still uses it. Because data centers are used to train generative ai such as Chat GPT and other popular artificial intelligence. And data centers heat up, which requires water to cool down. But it's not just using any water, it's using OUR freshwater. That 3 percent that is on our earth is being used to cool down data centers!

                Second reason is that the amount of electricity AI uses. Ai takes about 2.9 watt-hours of electricity just to generate a response, while doing a single Google search is JUST 0.3 watt-hours. Because of the amount of energy generative AI uses (this doesn't just apply to AI but it requires a lot of electricity) it is releasing tons of carbon emissions. In case you dont know why this is bad, this is one of the many factors of GLOBAL WARMING. Yes, there are many other things that cause it but by stopping the use of generative AI we have one less factor to worry about.

                Now onto morally WHY generative AI is bad, which I hope is obvious... Is that it is mostly trained by STOLEN works. This is mostly seen with art done by people, but this can include forms of writing. Ai is replacing people's jobs because it is more "efficient" and is typically free. But people who have spent their lives dedicating to something they enjoy, are not able to due to the fact it's so easy for them to be replaced by ai.

                And I understand how some people is works as an alternative for a therapist if you for any reason can't have one... But AI is not programmed to actually give you advice, it is program to just naturally AGREE with the user. No matter what problem it will try to find reasons to as why your "right". This is most likely so that way it can make the user more engaged, because why would you wanna spend time with something that always disagrees with you?

                This is not only it, but with AI you can generate just a about ANYTHING. And I don't wanna get too nsfw, but this is becoming a huge Internet safety problem because people can make just about anything your face for THEIR pleasure. And this HAS happened to many unconsenting people. Including CHILDREN.

                There are many more problems as too why generative AI is bad, but this is about all I will cover for now! Against sorry for this being so long but I think it's really important people know about this. Sorry if I got anything incorrect!

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                @seesaw ALSO if u use a search engine ur using artificial intelligence + algorithms to find what cha' need...
                not sayin it's morally related

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                  @orbital EYY THANK YOU TWIN 🔥🔥👅

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                    As someone who knows alot about ai and just tech in general for the water issue you stated thats not a problem 90% of the water used to cool is recycled and the power issue in reality with make things like electric cars more available as energy producers invest in better grid infrastructure and delivery

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                      @seesaw ii foorgoor... TOMORROW!!!!

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                      @orbital why are we doing a countdown 😭😭... "If we can get this post to 67 up votes I will give my final opinion!! Stay tuned!" 😜😜😜

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                        As someone who knows alot about ai and just tech in general for the water issue you stated thats not a problem 90% of the water used to cool is recycled and the power issue in reality with make things like electric cars more available as energy producers invest in better grid infrastructure and delivery

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                        @phantemxtx ohh okay I see!! If you do know, what's the process of the recycling?? Is it like going back to places that it was taken from or is just naturally going to places where it would be due to the water cycle (if that makes sense). And it's good it's 90% of it IS recycled somehow, but what happens to that ten percent?? Because in the end it's still ten percent we are losing, and that 10 percent will add up to a lot of water lost in the end

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                          @seesaw atp, ask your teacher if you can use this for extra credit 🔥🔥

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                          @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 ey I might lowk BCUZ SO MANY TEACHERS ARE ENCOURAGING AI EVEN MY ART TEACHER 😭😭

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                            @seesaw ALSO if u use a search engine ur using artificial intelligence + algorithms to find what cha' need...
                            not sayin it's morally related

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                            @Faust yess TAHTS bother bad thing about search engines SPECIFICALLY Google is that it uses Gemini to summarize stuff it finds online, but I know that there are alternative search engines that don't require that!

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                              this article you wrote is the ONLY thing prompting me to post in over 3 months, great job!

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                                @seesaw ii foorgoor... TOMORROW!!!!

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                                @orbital hurry the fuck up dawg 😭

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                                  @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 ey I might lowk BCUZ SO MANY TEACHERS ARE ENCOURAGING AI EVEN MY ART TEACHER 😭😭

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                                  @seesaw HELP, NOT THE ART TEACHER 💔💔 LOWK GLAD MY ART PROGRAM IN SCHOOL WAS CUT DUE TO BUDGETS, I THINK SHE SUPPORTED AI😭 either way, she was a crap teacher from what I heard, so uh-

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                                    this article you wrote is the ONLY thing prompting me to post in over 3 months, great job!

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                                    @szczęśliwy AHH THANK YOU SO MUCH!! it means a lot to me that my post about this is encouraging people ❤️❤️🥹 tysm

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                                      @seesaw HELP, NOT THE ART TEACHER 💔💔 LOWK GLAD MY ART PROGRAM IN SCHOOL WAS CUT DUE TO BUDGETS, I THINK SHE SUPPORTED AI😭 either way, she was a crap teacher from what I heard, so uh-

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                                      @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 OHH MY DAYS NO BECAUSE YOU GUYS... you are ON the WRONG side of the team AI IS OUT FOR YALLS JOBS!! WATCH OUT

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                                        @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 OHH MY DAYS NO BECAUSE YOU GUYS... you are ON the WRONG side of the team AI IS OUT FOR YALLS JOBS!! WATCH OUT

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                                        @seesaw EXACTLYY, THATS WHY I DONT GET IT WHEN TEACHERS USE AI FOR GRADING 💔💔 MOST OF MY TEACHERS DONT EVEN TEACH, ITS JUST ALL INDEPENDENT WORK 😭😭 SO IM JUST SITTING THERE, WONDERING CAUSE LIKE BRO..what do you do. 🌚

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                                          @seesaw EXACTLYY, THATS WHY I DONT GET IT WHEN TEACHERS USE AI FOR GRADING 💔💔 MOST OF MY TEACHERS DONT EVEN TEACH, ITS JUST ALL INDEPENDENT WORK 😭😭 SO IM JUST SITTING THERE, WONDERING CAUSE LIKE BRO..what do you do. 🌚

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                                          @Sup3rSwaggyy1983 bro how hard is it to do your job 😭😭 YALL ARE PAID TO TEACH AND YALL CANT EVEN DO THAT LOLL

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