tips for drawing women (*not for any particular art style btw, just some basics*) REQWESTED

[Yanderemenhera]

1. how does the bust ACTUALLY work in clothing and not on like, an anatomy ref sheet?

a common misconception I see is that a chest is ALWAYS prominate. when i'll be honest, it depends on the top and how much fat they have and where the fat is stored (we'll get to the fat storage thing in a bit) for a bust to be super visible and prominate out the bust needs to be big, and the shirt/top should be made out of thinner material and not be super baggy.
i know you'd like an irl example because I feel like it's hard to believe for some people so here you go:

the hellava boss shirt with how I posed was likely a shitty example due to my weirdass pose, but irl it's baggy and made from good, thick fabric and makes my top-heaviness basically invisible. whereas the cheap ahhh thinner fabric, size small top from Walmart makes me seem pretty top heavy.

if you've noticed, I assume the fabric of the girl's tops in the request thingy is thick and I tend to draw things a tad oversized and not super tight mixed with the fact of the body type requested, and the angle I draw them at, they tend to appear to not have any bust at all because of that.
(some of the requests did want a large bust but I haven't gotten to those yet 🥹)

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wtf is fat-storage?

fat storage is how much fat is stored in part of the body, I made up the term but it's important if you wanna draw characters with over-exagerated features in particular, basically someone with a ton of fat can store it in different places like, in their thighs, bottom, making their torso look like a pear.

or if there's a ton of fat maybe you give her a chubby tummy and bigger upper arms?

or maybe there's not a ton of fat on here so she is skinny/thin so her thighs are small and her torso is more like a box or maybe she's got a small waist so despite being thin her body is shaped more like an hourglass.

basically use the concept of fat to play around with placement and size of body parts, if you wanna draw over exaggerated bodies, a good thing to look at would be total drama island, the body types are over exaggerated and would be good as reference.

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female skeleton vs. male reference

this should help give you the idea of what men vs. women look like, while this is kinda inaccurate for medical use, it's good at showing some diffrences between the two
and i'll put another one here
obviously, not like, medically accurate, but it's good for reference.

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look for refrance images for what you're looking for, DO NOT TRACE OR USE AN ANATOMY WOMAN BASE.

people will trace other people's art or use like, Ibis paint woman bases all the time instead of learning how to 🙄
i've even seen people pay damn good money for a commission and someone will trace something instead of learning how to draw poses or bodies.
don't become like that. instead, use a reference image, don't trace it, just draw what you see, another reason tracing is awful is because it tends to look awful (some people can trace good I suppose, but I hardly see any well-traced art)
and it can look like a mismatch to your art style as well.

so like, find an image you like, draw what you see, don't trace over it.

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idk I hope this helps tbh

[sweetpuddin]

@Yanderemenhera i would upvote because i think this is very useful but ive already used all my upvotes for today T^T

[Rorschach]

@Yanderemenhera TY SO MUCH, this is very well explained and the torso pics, are a great reference, tysm I owe you

[Rorschach]

And the pics of you had me realize That the upper half and lower half need to be mostly straight.

[Yanderemenhera]

example of total drama island girls

[Rorschach]

@Yanderemenhera Hmmm I see, I was going for a more realistic look, but this also helps alot.

[wyrm]

@Yanderemenhera honestly i never rlly liked heather cuz she reminds me of the girl that my dad cheated with -__-

[Rorschach]

Also shout out to yander for making A whole freaking post about this, Im hyped bru ima go draw rnnn

[Yanderemenhera]

@wyrm dang

[sweetpuddin]

@Rorschach relatable ^^

[Yanderemenhera]

i'm really glad this has helped people out lol

[Yanderemenhera]

@Rorschach people kept texting me while drawing this so it took like over an hour to make, i'm sorry I didn't make the post last night lol

[sweetpuddin]

@Yanderemenhera my bad..

[Yanderemenhera]

@sweetpuddin you're ok lol, you weren't the only one. i'm just not great at multitasking but I enjoy speaking with you

[Rorschach]

@Yanderemenhera No nooo, ur good, It happens to us all.

[sweetpuddin]

@Yanderemenhera aw ty ^-^

[Yanderemenhera]

@sweetpuddin you're welcome lol

[_Izzy_]

Also idk if y'all dont know this but I've just started noticing it irl but females backs arch kinda noticably so if your drawing a girl sitting or from the side her back usually shouldnt actually be straight, slot of womens back curve noticeably

Also females have different chest types, im used to there being this like default chest type in animated media but female bodies are VERY diverse TvT

So those are extra things to consider on top of yanderes teachings:p

[Yanderemenhera]

@_Izzy_ my posture is [censored] so I definitely get that and I like what you say about chest sizes, I never hear anyone bring that up as well

[Yanderemenhera]

@_Izzy_ I also noticed that women vary insanely in height as well, and the common trope of women ALWAYS being shorter than a man isn't always true, I do see women in public tailer than me but not too often and regularly I see guys shorter than I am, one of the reasons why I put the total drama island cast here was for the different heights and body types to kinda show that there's not exactly a single default size for a woman

(I am aware that the bodies are very over exaggerated and cartoony, but still lol)