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  • st4ticundefined st4tic

    as for staff, some of them should be waaaaaayyy more patient with some users. i dont even mean to be rude but seriously.

    for example, i've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. if you need another example, some posts talking about another forum sites (mppc) were being mass deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. they were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.

    and another thing that i hope was changed(? i'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. i mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. that's just how it is. you COULD argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? the answer is no. most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. how would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?

    and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. im sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this like 1 am and my brain isnt even functioning very well atp <//3

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    @st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
    As for staff, some of them should be way more patient with certain users. I don't even mean to be rude but seriously.

    For example, I've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. Sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. If you need another example, some posts talking about another forum site (mppc) were being mass-deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. They were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.

    and another thing that I hope was changed(? I'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. I mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. That's just how it is. You could argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? The answer is no. Most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. How would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?

    and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this at 1 am and my brain isn't even functioning very well atp <//3

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    Nice reply and post regarding this matter. Let us begin,

    I want to start off by saying that I have been doing this long enough to know what and how we need to improve a community. Even though some changes are major and take away a lot from this site, they will almost always benefit us in some way. Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.

    As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.

    The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.

    Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.

    This wasn't just an issue, it was a problem that needed to be fixed.

    Therefore, shitposting was banned in the forums section, but deemed okay for our public chatrooms.

    As a result of us starting to remove shitposting and encouraging more on-topic discussions (this was exactly why the engagement category was made), the number of posts increased by over 10,000 and the number of Topics increased significantly.

    On-Topic discussions give you something to post to, rather than a foolish, unconstructive post that is ruining engagement and the amount of interesting content around the forum.

    Others, for weeks have been privately begging us to take action regarding this. It was even to the point where the administrators had to step in and help out with this issue!

    I believe that our actions to limit the amount of shitposting in the forums, which are meant to have engaging content has boosted the desire to post more and ultimately increased the amount of conversation around the forum area.

    To add on to this, we get about 400,000 unique views monthly. Unique views are views from different people, devices, etc. It is just a fancy way of saying that we have 400,000 people either looking through our forum or using the forum to browse the internet. Our goal is to increase the number of users we have coming in by improving engagement and the number of interesting topics. To be genuine, we should've banned shitposting a long time ago.

    Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.

    Hopefully, this somewhat clears up the confusion and I will be awaiting your reply.


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      @Aries said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

      Tbf, I think it could just be the new user base. I miss what BDNS was like when I first joined, now most users are kinda annoying and immature

      cough cough SSL

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      @KiwiFarmsArkavel What's ironic is you're being just as equally immature by trying to shade other users, I don't know who that guy is and I don't need to, it's really just not needed is it?

      You're not reading this instead of my post, right?
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        @KiwiFarmsArkavel What's ironic is you're being just as equally immature by trying to shade other users, I don't know who that guy is and I don't need to, it's really just not needed is it?

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        @Aries said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

        @KiwiFarmsArkavel What's ironic is you're being just as equally immature by trying to shade other users, I don't know who that guy is and I don't need to, it's really just not needed is it?

        I only shaded one ^^ (it was well deserved though)

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          @st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
          As for staff, some of them should be way more patient with certain users. I don't even mean to be rude but seriously.

          For example, I've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. Sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. If you need another example, some posts talking about another forum site (mppc) were being mass-deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. They were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.

          and another thing that I hope was changed(? I'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. I mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. That's just how it is. You could argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? The answer is no. Most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. How would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?

          and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this at 1 am and my brain isn't even functioning very well atp <//3

          --

          Nice reply and post regarding this matter. Let us begin,

          I want to start off by saying that I have been doing this long enough to know what and how we need to improve a community. Even though some changes are major and take away a lot from this site, they will almost always benefit us in some way. Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.

          As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.

          The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.

          Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.

          This wasn't just an issue, it was a problem that needed to be fixed.

          Therefore, shitposting was banned in the forums section, but deemed okay for our public chatrooms.

          As a result of us starting to remove shitposting and encouraging more on-topic discussions (this was exactly why the engagement category was made), the number of posts increased by over 10,000 and the number of Topics increased significantly.

          On-Topic discussions give you something to post to, rather than a foolish, unconstructive post that is ruining engagement and the amount of interesting content around the forum.

          Others, for weeks have been privately begging us to take action regarding this. It was even to the point where the administrators had to step in and help out with this issue!

          I believe that our actions to limit the amount of shitposting in the forums, which are meant to have engaging content has boosted the desire to post more and ultimately increased the amount of conversation around the forum area.

          To add on to this, we get about 400,000 unique views monthly. Unique views are views from different people, devices, etc. It is just a fancy way of saying that we have 400,000 people either looking through our forum or using the forum to browse the internet. Our goal is to increase the number of users we have coming in by improving engagement and the number of interesting topics. To be genuine, we should've banned shitposting a long time ago.

          Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.

          Hopefully, this somewhat clears up the confusion and I will be awaiting your reply.

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          hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.

          Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.

          yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq

          if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.

          As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.

          that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.

          The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.

          this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.

          Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.

          okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.

          i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it

          Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.

          i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i

          oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible

          and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying

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            please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs

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              please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs

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              @st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

              please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs

              I gotten all the points twin

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                @st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

                please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs

                I gotten all the points twin

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                lmfao, thats great to hear gng 😭

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                  hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.

                  Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.

                  yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq

                  if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.

                  As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.

                  that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.

                  The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.

                  this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.

                  Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.

                  okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.

                  i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it

                  Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.

                  i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i

                  oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible

                  and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying

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                  @st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

                  hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.

                  Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.

                  yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq

                  if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.

                  As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.

                  that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.

                  The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.

                  this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.

                  Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.

                  okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.

                  i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it

                  Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.

                  i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i

                  oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible

                  and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying

                  You're missing a lot about what I was saying. Our activity has decreased significantly and started to before you got here. Most of the people who left are the same people who shitpost everyday and often get banned, so, I dont really see a problem with them leaving. It is ultimately up to them!

                  Allowing the advertisements of other forums right now, kind of defeats the purpose of collaborations with other communities as the focus is on growing their community and ours as well.

                  If you could provide the links or look for an example where we werent being patient, it would be appreciated. I don't have much to go off of. Additionally, we can continue this conversation via dms as I have some things to catch up on.


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                    @st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

                    hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.

                    Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.

                    yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq

                    if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.

                    As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.

                    that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.

                    The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.

                    this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.

                    Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.

                    okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.

                    i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it

                    Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.

                    i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i

                    oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible

                    and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying

                    You're missing a lot about what I was saying. Our activity has decreased significantly and started to before you got here. Most of the people who left are the same people who shitpost everyday and often get banned, so, I dont really see a problem with them leaving. It is ultimately up to them!

                    Allowing the advertisements of other forums right now, kind of defeats the purpose of collaborations with other communities as the focus is on growing their community and ours as well.

                    If you could provide the links or look for an example where we werent being patient, it would be appreciated. I don't have much to go off of. Additionally, we can continue this conversation via dms as I have some things to catch up on.

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                    eh, you're right

                    If you could provide the links or look for an example where we werent being patient, it would be appreciated. I don't have much to go off of.

                    as mentioned, i lost them earlier, but if possible i'll search for them

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                      @_Izzy_ no, there's just that little users

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                      @Yanderemenhera oh:(

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                        i wonder if browse dns becoming a actual app would make it more popular, i bet artist would love an extra social media platform that wont use their art to train ai, plus the site reminds me of reddit but not toxic

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                          i think it should become a actual downloadable app

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                            i think it should become a actual downloadable app

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                            @_Izzy_ I agree.push notifs would make jt so much easier to interact

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                              Apps are expensive


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                                Apps are expensive

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                                @Raven so not peak

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                                  Apps are expensive

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                                  @Raven said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:

                                  Apps are expensive

                                  are you familiar with F droid? just an idea but it might be cheeper than hosting it on google

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                                    That would be a @pwsincd and @vgmoose thing.. that's not my cup of tea


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                                      That would be a @pwsincd and @vgmoose thing.. that's not my cup of tea

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                                      @Raven ok, i remember i used f droid to download a music downloader on a really old phone that google wasnt supported on. i believe all of the files were akp downloaded so it'd only work on android anyway

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                                        Basically, I don't usually see the other staff bring this up but users are leaving like crazy. We get new accounts everyday but most accounts on here have zero posts or are flat out advertising gambling websites and are quite literally bots. What do you as the community want that we can give you? Please answer in this posts replys!

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                                        @Yanderemenhera I brought this up and I'M staff

                                        Evah! >:3

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                                          We do have an apps in the works! Actually push notifications is the difficult part, but we should be able to get there eventually. It's important to make the site easier to use for mobile users.

                                          On the users that have left though, I generally agree with Raven's take that it's natural / their decision to make. People will come and go over time. Obviously, we don't want to make this feel like an isolating place either.

                                          Sign the browser petition! Or visit my site at vgmoose.dev.

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