As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?
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Tbf, I think it could just be the new user base. I miss what BDNS was like when I first joined, now most users are kinda annoying and immature
You're not reading this instead of my post, right?
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Tbf, I think it could just be the new user base. I miss what BDNS was like when I first joined, now most users are kinda annoying and immature
@Aries said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
Tbf, I think it could just be the new user base. I miss what BDNS was like when I first joined, now most users are kinda annoying and immature
cough cough SSL
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i think its up to the current users to be more interesting or talk abt more engaging thins so ppl have a reason to want to stay and read what others think. i personally plan on posting more abt random opinions or things i found interesting that i saw. i think these little things could make a difference but idk im just spitballing
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i think its up to the current users to be more interesting or talk abt more engaging thins so ppl have a reason to want to stay and read what others think. i personally plan on posting more abt random opinions or things i found interesting that i saw. i think these little things could make a difference but idk im just spitballing
@_Izzy_ said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
i think its up to the current users to be more interesting or talk abt more engaging thins so ppl have a reason to want to stay and read what others think. i personally plan on posting more abt random opinions or things i found interesting that i saw. i think these little things could make a difference but idk im just spitballing
most of the new users are either bots, people that make accounts to never use it at all, and people like SSL making alt acc's to sputter nonesense
so I really don't know Abt that
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@_Izzy_ said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
i think its up to the current users to be more interesting or talk abt more engaging thins so ppl have a reason to want to stay and read what others think. i personally plan on posting more abt random opinions or things i found interesting that i saw. i think these little things could make a difference but idk im just spitballing
most of the new users are either bots, people that make accounts to never use it at all, and people like SSL making alt acc's to sputter nonesense
so I really don't know Abt that
@KiwiFarmsArkavel thats kinda why its up to the users to be more interesting and engaging, bc most users are boring or lame or dont engage much with the community. im basically saying its up to US to be more entertaining in my opinion
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@KiwiFarmsArkavel thats kinda why its up to the users to be more interesting and engaging, bc most users are boring or lame or dont engage much with the community. im basically saying its up to US to be more entertaining in my opinion
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@_Izzy_ said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
i think its up to the current users to be more interesting or talk abt more engaging thins so ppl have a reason to want to stay and read what others think. i personally plan on posting more abt random opinions or things i found interesting that i saw. i think these little things could make a difference but idk im just spitballing
most of the new users are either bots, people that make accounts to never use it at all, and people like SSL making alt acc's to sputter nonesense
so I really don't know Abt that
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SSL making alt acc's to sputter nonesense
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i mean, some people here who are new gens might actually be active, but that really means we need to lock in with how interesting we need to make our topics be so they can feel more comfortable with the community.
SSL making alt acc's to sputter nonesense
bro got reborn as john wick
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as for staff, some of them should be waaaaaayyy more patient with some users. i dont even mean to be rude but seriously.
for example, i've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. if you need another example, some posts talking about another forum sites (mppc) were being mass deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. they were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.
and another thing that i hope was changed(? i'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. i mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. that's just how it is. you COULD argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? the answer is no. most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. how would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?
and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. im sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this like 1 am and my brain isnt even functioning very well atp <//3
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as for staff, some of them should be waaaaaayyy more patient with some users. i dont even mean to be rude but seriously.
for example, i've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. if you need another example, some posts talking about another forum sites (mppc) were being mass deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. they were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.
and another thing that i hope was changed(? i'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. i mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. that's just how it is. you COULD argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? the answer is no. most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. how would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?
and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. im sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this like 1 am and my brain isnt even functioning very well atp <//3
@st4tic i think more ppl posting abt random stuff would make the platform feel more cozy and like a intimate community and might ironically help it out
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i feel like there are alot of users but i only see post from like the same group of ppl on my feed and i dont even follow them so seeing more variety would be cool idk if yall can effect that:P
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i feel like there are alot of users but i only see post from like the same group of ppl on my feed and i dont even follow them so seeing more variety would be cool idk if yall can effect that:P
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as for staff, some of them should be waaaaaayyy more patient with some users. i dont even mean to be rude but seriously.
for example, i've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. if you need another example, some posts talking about another forum sites (mppc) were being mass deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. they were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.
and another thing that i hope was changed(? i'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. i mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. that's just how it is. you COULD argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? the answer is no. most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. how would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?
and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. im sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this like 1 am and my brain isnt even functioning very well atp <//3
@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
As for staff, some of them should be way more patient with certain users. I don't even mean to be rude but seriously.For example, I've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. Sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. If you need another example, some posts talking about another forum site (mppc) were being mass-deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. They were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.
and another thing that I hope was changed(? I'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. I mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. That's just how it is. You could argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? The answer is no. Most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. How would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?
and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this at 1 am and my brain isn't even functioning very well atp <//3
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Nice reply and post regarding this matter. Let us begin,
I want to start off by saying that I have been doing this long enough to know what and how we need to improve a community. Even though some changes are major and take away a lot from this site, they will almost always benefit us in some way. Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
This wasn't just an issue, it was a problem that needed to be fixed.
Therefore, shitposting was banned in the forums section, but deemed okay for our public chatrooms.
As a result of us starting to remove shitposting and encouraging more on-topic discussions (this was exactly why the engagement category was made), the number of posts increased by over 10,000 and the number of Topics increased significantly.
On-Topic discussions give you something to post to, rather than a foolish, unconstructive post that is ruining engagement and the amount of interesting content around the forum.
Others, for weeks have been privately begging us to take action regarding this. It was even to the point where the administrators had to step in and help out with this issue!
I believe that our actions to limit the amount of shitposting in the forums, which are meant to have engaging content has boosted the desire to post more and ultimately increased the amount of conversation around the forum area.
To add on to this, we get about 400,000 unique views monthly. Unique views are views from different people, devices, etc. It is just a fancy way of saying that we have 400,000 people either looking through our forum or using the forum to browse the internet. Our goal is to increase the number of users we have coming in by improving engagement and the number of interesting topics. To be genuine, we should've banned shitposting a long time ago.
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
Hopefully, this somewhat clears up the confusion and I will be awaiting your reply.
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@Aries said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
Tbf, I think it could just be the new user base. I miss what BDNS was like when I first joined, now most users are kinda annoying and immature
cough cough SSL
@KiwiFarmsArkavel What's ironic is you're being just as equally immature by trying to shade other users, I don't know who that guy is and I don't need to, it's really just not needed is it?
You're not reading this instead of my post, right?
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@KiwiFarmsArkavel What's ironic is you're being just as equally immature by trying to shade other users, I don't know who that guy is and I don't need to, it's really just not needed is it?
@Aries said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
@KiwiFarmsArkavel What's ironic is you're being just as equally immature by trying to shade other users, I don't know who that guy is and I don't need to, it's really just not needed is it?
I only shaded one ^^ (it was well deserved though)
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@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
As for staff, some of them should be way more patient with certain users. I don't even mean to be rude but seriously.For example, I've recently seen a user here (shrub, who is now banned,) having to appeal a warning that was only given to her because she said "newsletter ahh post" jokingly. Sure, it was eventually revoked, but it shouldn't even have been issued in the first place since it wasn't rule-breaking at all. If you need another example, some posts talking about another forum site (mppc) were being mass-deleted in a topic, and for seemingly no reason at all. They were not mass-advertising, they weren't doing anything inherently inappropriate, and everyone in the comments was confused by it.
and another thing that I hope was changed(? I'm still kinda confused by it) was a strange dislike for shitposting. I mean, this is a silly forum site after all and shitposting is a great part of the internet. That's just how it is. You could argue "but this is originally for talking about tech and homebrew" but do you really think people use this site for just that? The answer is no. Most people use this just to post silly topics like irl updates or talk about their favorite show, which is why different categories even exist. so like. How would shitposting even affect anything here so negatively?
and yeah, i dont mean all of the mods- but if this behavior could be changed i would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry if nothing here makes sense im writing this at 1 am and my brain isn't even functioning very well atp <//3
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Nice reply and post regarding this matter. Let us begin,
I want to start off by saying that I have been doing this long enough to know what and how we need to improve a community. Even though some changes are major and take away a lot from this site, they will almost always benefit us in some way. Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
This wasn't just an issue, it was a problem that needed to be fixed.
Therefore, shitposting was banned in the forums section, but deemed okay for our public chatrooms.
As a result of us starting to remove shitposting and encouraging more on-topic discussions (this was exactly why the engagement category was made), the number of posts increased by over 10,000 and the number of Topics increased significantly.
On-Topic discussions give you something to post to, rather than a foolish, unconstructive post that is ruining engagement and the amount of interesting content around the forum.
Others, for weeks have been privately begging us to take action regarding this. It was even to the point where the administrators had to step in and help out with this issue!
I believe that our actions to limit the amount of shitposting in the forums, which are meant to have engaging content has boosted the desire to post more and ultimately increased the amount of conversation around the forum area.
To add on to this, we get about 400,000 unique views monthly. Unique views are views from different people, devices, etc. It is just a fancy way of saying that we have 400,000 people either looking through our forum or using the forum to browse the internet. Our goal is to increase the number of users we have coming in by improving engagement and the number of interesting topics. To be genuine, we should've banned shitposting a long time ago.
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
Hopefully, this somewhat clears up the confusion and I will be awaiting your reply.
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Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq
if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.
i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i
oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible
and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying
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please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs
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please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs
@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs
I gotten all the points twin
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@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
please someone tell me you at least get some of my points guys pleask i cant be alone in this sobs
I gotten all the points twin
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hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.
Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq
if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.
i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i
oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible
and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying
@st4tic said in As someone who's PR department, how might we improve and keep users from leaving?:
hmm, good arguments, but i still do have some questions about this post.
Therefore, I ask that everyone start waiting rather than immediately pointing the finger and complaining. That's an issue as well and I am not referring to you at all. Just keep this in mind.
yeah i get where this is coming from, but the thing is: how long will we have to wait until our complaints with the site get fixed? /genq
if it takes too long or the issues of other users are not addressed and tackled head-on, i think we kinda do have reason to object since we're not fully satisfied with the forum yet if that makes sense. besides, other users addressing the flaws of this site could be something that has benefits! that doesn't mean i totally disagree with you, though.
As stated before, the only reason Shrub and the other User were warned was that newsletters are meant to have clear, constructive, and meaningful replies as this is usually content that is going to be published via Social Media. Additionally, I still hold the expectation that if something isn't necessarily needed or isn't constructive, don't post it.
that's fair enough, but i don't really think a single post should lead to a warning since nobody else started derailing. i hope this makes sense as i type this.
The Moderation Team noticed a spike in thread-derailing and unnecessary, unconstructive posts made by the community. This forum for the longest has banned any form of Shitposting long before much was said regarding it. However, Shitposting wasn't really a problem until the last few months, when we had a problem with unconstructive, foolish posts, which could in our eyes, be deemed as shitposting.
this is where i'm going to share my take on this: i really do understand your concerns by banning shitposting, but i actually think it was the major reason why some people left. this might seem crazy but think about it: it's a big part of the internet's culture, and depending on what it is some people actually like engaging in this sorta thing. i'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with your reasoning, but think about it.
Despite numerous announcements to keep posts constructive, this problem continued to become worst throughout the months ahead. Additionally, the Forum started dying until we started pushing the unconstructive posts off the site.
okay, what? i don't think the forum was "dying" at the time, it's actually dying right now and many users are leaving the site because they're probably not satisfied. but anyways, let me move on, this is just my take on this.
i kinda get the rest of the shitposting stuff so im just gonna skip it
Regarding your statement about the MPPC forum and other forum communities, we have temporarily removed the mentions and advertisements that users have been creating. This was not done to be petty or show hate towards this forum. Our administration team and higher-ups frequently talk with the forum administrators as we work together to fix issues around our forum. Additionally, I have removed it as we work to establish connections with other forums in hopes of creating an affiliate page that would improve relationships outside of our forum, which is something we are aiming for in the long run.
i'm still confused-? i might not have understood something obvious because i'm probably stupid, but i still don't see the reason you temporarily removed the posts at all then. besides, as someone who knew the context of that post, they weren't advertising. besides since it wasn't MASS advertising, shouldn't it be allowed-? but anyways where was i
oh yeah, i think it'd be awesome if you replied and shed light on the part i was talking about how staff should be more patient, especially with new/sensitive users. i've seen some cases where some staff say things that could be deemed "rude" when they should be more chill, so to speak. and well, i lost the urls i would show here to link as examples- but i'd love to see your view on it, if possible
and im just giving my view on this, not inherently criticizing or saying your points are bad (because they're not). but yeah, this makes sense, thanks for replying
You're missing a lot about what I was saying. Our activity has decreased significantly and started to before you got here. Most of the people who left are the same people who shitpost everyday and often get banned, so, I dont really see a problem with them leaving. It is ultimately up to them!
Allowing the advertisements of other forums right now, kind of defeats the purpose of collaborations with other communities as the focus is on growing their community and ours as well.
If you could provide the links or look for an example where we werent being patient, it would be appreciated. I don't have much to go off of. Additionally, we can continue this conversation via dms as I have some things to catch up on.
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