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What is a fairy-tale ''Bad Guy'' who isn't actually that bad if you think about it?

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  • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

    i think Medusa is a good one, theres many varients to her story but from what i can tell some goddess was jealous or medusa got assaulted (by a man, in a very bad way) and then she got cursed and like ig according to myth she deserves it???? lemme know if im wrong TvT

    like id be angry af too if i was cursed bc someone was jealous of me or bc i was literally assaulted

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    • saphirecrown1undefined saphirecrown1

      does the pied piper count?

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      @saphirecrown1 i feel like as long as the kids he lured were happy hes not that bad, the villagers were the ones who cheated him first anyway

      considering the time period that story was made, those kids were probably better off with the flute guy 💀

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      • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

        @saphirecrown1 i feel like as long as the kids he lured were happy hes not that bad, the villagers were the ones who cheated him first anyway

        considering the time period that story was made, those kids were probably better off with the flute guy 💀

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        @_Izzy_ yeah, i just didn't know if he was considered a "bad guy" per se

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        • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

          i think Medusa is a good one, theres many varients to her story but from what i can tell some goddess was jealous or medusa got assaulted (by a man, in a very bad way) and then she got cursed and like ig according to myth she deserves it???? lemme know if im wrong TvT

          like id be angry af too if i was cursed bc someone was jealous of me or bc i was literally assaulted

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          @_Izzy_ i had things done to me in a BSA uniform, i feel like the argument of someone asking for it or they deserved it is dumb AF, they dont care 'bout what you are wearing or how you look. the difference in the example i brought up with rumplestilitskin, depending on the story, she knew damn well what she was signing up for, (i heard one version where her dad signed her up for it, so obviously this doesn't apply) so i feel like a supernatural being taking your jewelry and your ''first born'' is on you in that situation

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          • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

            @saphirecrown1 i feel like as long as the kids he lured were happy hes not that bad, the villagers were the ones who cheated him first anyway

            considering the time period that story was made, those kids were probably better off with the flute guy 💀

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            @_Izzy_ yeah, i agree

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              ok, so shrek was based off of a real childdrens book right? i heard someone say once loard farquad wasnt a bad guy, and shrek is the guy who fucked everything up. (imo, i feel like the genocide of the fairy-tale creatures as a race/species/group of entity kinda ruins this point but i honestly wanna know if anyone here believes wether or not farquad is actually a decent guy)

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              hit me up on discord, my username is wilfordbremly and I will talk to you 'bout daibetus
              my new grounds account is called phroggered
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                @_Izzy_ i had things done to me in a BSA uniform, i feel like the argument of someone asking for it or they deserved it is dumb AF, they dont care 'bout what you are wearing or how you look. the difference in the example i brought up with rumplestilitskin, depending on the story, she knew damn well what she was signing up for, (i heard one version where her dad signed her up for it, so obviously this doesn't apply) so i feel like a supernatural being taking your jewelry and your ''first born'' is on you in that situation

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                @Yanderemenhera i might be slow but i didnt get how this relates to medusa TvT
                pls explain it to me again

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                • Yanderemenheraundefined Yanderemenhera

                  ok, so shrek was based off of a real childdrens book right? i heard someone say once loard farquad wasnt a bad guy, and shrek is the guy who fucked everything up. (imo, i feel like the genocide of the fairy-tale creatures as a race/species/group of entity kinda ruins this point but i honestly wanna know if anyone here believes wether or not farquad is actually a decent guy)

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                  @Yanderemenhera i feel like lord farquad could be seen as a product of his position and time at most, but i can never imagine him being the real victim

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                  • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

                    @Yanderemenhera i might be slow but i didnt get how this relates to medusa TvT
                    pls explain it to me again

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                    @_Izzy_ i mean, you mentioned the idea of someone ''deserving it'' or ''asking for it'' i dont think thats the case, i think it doesn't matter if her outfit or deminor told the guy it was ok, you gotta actually ask. ik with rumplestilitskin, in most versions of the story i have heared, she got herself in that situation, so i believe that kinda makes my guy asking for a child in exchange for his assistance kinda on her if she put herself in that situation and he just so happened to help her out

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                    hit me up on discord, my username is wilfordbremly and I will talk to you 'bout daibetus
                    my new grounds account is called phroggered
                    look at dat to see ''exclusive'' content or whatever. YouTube is far too toxic for me tbh.

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                      though, i will say, greek mythos is typically beyond fucked up, and you could argue if they are gods doing ts it does not matter, but i feel like it still doesn't make it ''ok'' so to speak, arachnia was better than the gods at something, so they threw a hissy-fit and turned her into a spider. i'd argue the higher being had a very human fragile ego and she, despite being a god, is a bitch for doing that.

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                      hit me up on discord, my username is wilfordbremly and I will talk to you 'bout daibetus
                      my new grounds account is called phroggered
                      look at dat to see ''exclusive'' content or whatever. YouTube is far too toxic for me tbh.

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                        the doctor guy from human centipede
                        (i cant spell his,name)

                        woof

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                          Does the student from that one Goethe story count as a bad guy? I don't know what it's called in English. The one that Disney once made. All he was doing was try something out with the things he learned really.

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                            the doctor guy from human centipede
                            (i cant spell his,name)

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                            @ladiesman217 are you absolutely sure that Dr. Heiter is innocent blud.

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                            • ladiesman217undefined ladiesman217

                              the doctor guy from human centipede
                              (i cant spell his,name)

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                              @ladiesman217 wtf fairy-tales were you being read?

                              wilford bremly, sep, 27th 1934 to Aug, 1st, 2020
                              hit me up on discord, my username is wilfordbremly and I will talk to you 'bout daibetus
                              my new grounds account is called phroggered
                              look at dat to see ''exclusive'' content or whatever. YouTube is far too toxic for me tbh.

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