@punkrotting im not transphobic tho... i literally said it being a disorder isnt bad
pls actually read what i said or stop replying
id never treat someone badly for being trans bc thats just who they are?? just bc i see smth as a mental illness doesnt mean id discriminate against ppl bc of it

your just looking for a excuse to call me transphobic bc you disagree with me which is messed up bc theres ppl who rlly are transphobic and dont even wana listen to there perspectives and actively hate on them and i am not one of those ppl

and im only saying all this bc i think if it was acknowledged for what it is, and we as a society became more accepting of mental illness, thered be less transphobia :/

@w1ckedsticky1983 ok bro TvT

@punkrotting huhhh??? im sorry if you have male genitals and FEEL like a female, thats a disorder TvT

@w1ckedsticky1983 hence it being a disorder, which like i said is ok TvT
we rlly going in circles lol

@punkrotting mb, i meant they FEEL like something they arent, hence it being a disorder (gender dysphoria)

@w1ckedsticky1983 i agree with the first part, being more accepting of mental illness would solve transphobia once we started acknowledging it as a mental illness
anyway idk wtf your second part is on abt i literally said it being a mental illness doesnt invalidate how they feel
if your a woman and feel like your a man your trans TvT
i feel like we're going in circles, if you dont understand my point then thats on you bc i explained it clearly this time

@punkrotting you clearly dont understand what i wrote:/

@freedom-fries how am i wrong? please actually explain it

@w1ckedsticky1983 theres nothing wrong with considering it to be a disorder and i feel like that fact doesnt invalidate trans ppl bc what they feel is very much real and like i mentioned earlier i respect ppls pronouns and am not transphobic, i just dont get why it isnt recodnized as a disorder to be accepted

i think there would be less transphobia if we as a society acknowledged it for what it is and non-trans ppl would be able to understand it better which is the first step to being tolerant towards it and more accepting bc the way its viewed/talked about is just more confusing for non-trans folk and its contradicting

and like i mentioned earlier alot of non-trans ppl claiming to be trans is diluting its meaning, like i said being a feminine guy who even wheres dresses maybe doesnt make you trans, its a actual mental disorder real people experience and now its just a label ppl use to be a part of community

and once again this is why i wish they were separate from us bc it rlly should be its own thing

@w1ckedsticky1983 is its a mental disorder that was my point
im confused, what are you tryna say? /gen

@punkrotting i edited my response, if you want to actually understand what im tryna say you can check it out

@punkrotting im saying they arent trans:/

@w1ckedsticky1983 all i said was ppl can act in a way that doesnt match how society says someone of their [censored] can act and still not be trans
i said this bc when u were saying its not a mental illness u mentioned ppl who dont conform with their how theyre gender should be they may identify as trans

my point was pretty stupid and common sense but i dont get why yall dont get it:/ i know thats different then being trans, that WAS the point TvT

anyways im done yappin i promise, i appreciate yall taking my question seriously^^

edit: im not done yapping TvT
my point was ppl who just say theyre trans bc the dont conform to societies expectations of their gender but dont 'feel' like a different gender just arent actually trans TvT theres just labelling themselves as such but theres no meaning behind it, if you dont feel like or want to be another [censored] then u are, (dont have gender dysphoria) then you arent trans TvT and i feel like its unfair to actual trans ppl for people to use their label just bc, but im not trans so maybe they dont mind
so its still a mental disorder:/

@freedom-fries idk what pride parades you be checking out, like i said if you read my reply, the ones in Springfield are chill

@w1ckedsticky1983 thats literally my point, you said its not a mental illness and some ppl just arent the norm and may choose to identify as trans, im saying that you can not fit the norm and not necessarily be trans

ima be real im done with this convo now:/

@freedom-fries bro WHAT pride parades are so fun TvT ig theres always bad apples but theyre actually pretty chill atleast the one in Springfield

@w1ckedsticky1983 thats what im saying bruh TvT

@punkrotting wtf is wrong with saying that??? alot of men are feminine and still identify as men so idk what ur tryna say

@w1ckedsticky1983 is what you described not gender disphoria tho? i think what u said abt not aligning with societies expectations makes sense but you can be a feminine man and even where dresses and still be a man if that makes sense (like rosado from fire emblemmm<3)
but if you 'dont like your [censored]' isnt that gender dysphoria?
anyways thanks for explaining it to me more, i think what im getting is its just a way ppl identify but its usually to cope with the mental disorder that is gemder dysphoria

@seal i dont get why its transphobic
even if they have similar experiences i dont get why they cant have their own group instead???
but what u said makes sense ig, but dont all trans ppl have gender dysphoria, i thought thats kinda the point? so basically most trans ppl identify as trans to cope with their mental disorder?

like i said it just feels kinda lame like i dont rlly relate to ppl in my own community and i feel like they should just be a completely separate community
its not that deep tho and im not transphobic bc that would be dumb