u guys need to be more woke

[freedom fries]

@punkrotting I'm still a punk rotting yes I am

[_Izzy_]

@freedom-fries how am i wrong? please actually explain it

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ I dunno, I'm just a bit confused on what you mean. I can understand your ideology to an extent, but if we're going to view it as a mental disorder, then the first steps for transphobic attitudes to dissipate would be to destigmatize mental health as a whole. Majority of people don't take mental health that seriously, believe it or not. If we wanted to normalize it, the best approach would be to just frankly educate people and discuss about what it means in general.

Also, this statement: "my point was ppl who just say theyre trans bc the dont conform to societies expectations of their gender but dont 'feel' like a different gender just arent actually trans TvT theres just labelling themselves as such but theres no meaning behind it, if you dont feel like or want to be another [censored] then u are, (dont have gender dysphoria) then you arent trans," just feels immensely transphobic because you're practically saying that being transgender or other indenities alike
shouldn't be valid because you personally deem it as a disorder itself. You're trying to claim that because you identify as a different gender, it doesn't matter because in the end you aren't. Generally, if you don't identify with your birthgiven gender, you fall under the transgender umbrella term. I don't get wym by "it has no meaning behind it."

It's just strange to me how you claim that there's a certain requirement for being transgender that makes you valid. As far as I'm aware, you never really struggled with your identity, seeing as how you present yourself as very feminine and embrace your birth sexuality.

[_Izzy_]

@punkrotting you clearly dont understand what i wrote:/

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@punkrotting ⬆️⬆️⬆️‼️‼️

The first steps to destigmatize and normalize something is to break conformity and speak about the given subject instead of ignoring it 🐌‼️

[freedom fries]

@w1ckedsticky1983 Shut it. Nobody wants to listen to your next rant of you stroking your own ego about how trans good transphobe bad. Go ahead, type another paragraph. Nobody will listen to you.
/s

[_Izzy_]

@w1ckedsticky1983 i agree with the first part, being more accepting of mental illness would solve transphobia once we started acknowledging it as a mental illness
anyway idk wtf your second part is on abt i literally said it being a mental illness doesnt invalidate how they feel
if your a woman and feel like your a man your trans TvT
i feel like we're going in circles, if you dont understand my point then thats on you bc i explained it clearly this time

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@freedom-fries awuuughs,, does this mean we're not friends anymore?? :((((((((

[punkrotting]

@_Izzy_ said in u guys need to be more woke:

@punkrotting you clearly dont understand what i wrote:/

you LITERALLY said earlier that trans ppl believe theyre something they arent

[freedom fries]

@w1ckedsticky1983 sarcasm

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ you don't understand my point as well either because I've explained it multiple times. Anyways, I'm done with this discussion as well for the same reasons 😪

[freedom fries]

@punkrotting I was a punk rotting yes I was

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@freedom-fries oh shittingz, mb. I didn't see the tone tag 👀👀👀

[_Izzy_]

@punkrotting mb, i meant they FEEL like something they arent, hence it being a disorder (gender dysphoria)

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ believe and feel** like something they are*******

Anyways

[punkrotting]

@_Izzy_ OH MY GOD. YOU ARENT GETTING IT. TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHAT THEY "FEEL" LIKE

[_Izzy_]

@w1ckedsticky1983 hence it being a disorder, which like i said is ok TvT
we rlly going in circles lol

[_Izzy_]

@punkrotting huhhh??? im sorry if you have male genitals and FEEL like a female, thats a disorder TvT

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ I think it's mainly because you generally dont understand what it's like to be transgender or have experienced it

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ ain't no way 😭😭 literally said this SO MANY times:

Gender does NOT equal your birthgiven sex 😭😭