So uhh,

[Noctis]

I made the better outlining, to make it better to see

[Noctis]

@w1ckedsticky1983 Indeed, I have made this reference for the one I am Making right now if you saw the latest post

[sc4retic]

then like it or not it's not YOUR art. it isn't even made with permission from the author

[Noctis]

@st4tic Actually yes

[Noctis]

I speak Japanese and used twitter

[sc4retic]

@Innocent screenshots?

[Noctis]

@st4tic Yes I'll try to send screenshots

[sc4retic]

@Innocent please at least send them soon...? if you take too long it'd be way easier to assume you faked them

[seal]

@st4tic if they really did use a reference rather than trace, why would they need to credit author? genuine question sorry

[Spooky overlord]

@seal because their trace is near identical to the original, just with minor color changes, while claiming it to be their own work

[sc4retic]

using references is a completely different thing than tracing. the latter, much like recoloring, is basically something frowned upon if the author is not credited. that's because you just take the original image, trace the lineart, and since you don't specify the author that means you're also claiming the art is yours.

in this case he explicitly stated the art is his when he did not credit the author he used the "reference" from anyways.

[Noctis]

@st4tic Here you go And I had to fricking wait cause of this

[JadeF1re]

@st4tic not the big t(s) being traced

This is why if you're suspicious about some art you might wanna backwards image search it

[Noctis]

@JadeF1re Frr

[sc4retic]

you're saying you used it as a REFERENCE, not that you directly traced over it. and, as i already disclosed, they are NOT the same thing

i am very well aware i do not need to drag this as the original has been deleted, but 1. please admit the og piece is not yours or credit the author; 2. just... don't do this anymore...? tracing in general is something controversial in the art community and you didn't even directly say you changed the lineart, just that you used it as a reference. i bet if you did the creator prolly wouldn't allow it anyways

again, i am just posting this to avoid future cases

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EDIT?? this is the wrong reply i'm sorry you're good jadefire

[Noctis]

Y don't ya see the screen shots I showed ya

[sc4retic]

@Innocent this is LITERALLY what i'm talking about

you're saying you used it as a REFERENCE, not that you directly traced over it. and, as i already disclosed, they are NOT the same thing

you didn't even directly say you changed the lineart, just that you used it as a reference. i bet if you did the creator prolly wouldn't allow it anyways

but we'd better just leave this be since i saw N's post and well... this is going a bit far for sure. just please don't trace over people's art anymore preferably

[Noctis]

@st4tic extra extra don't make it a big deal especially when you are now here the artist said yes I used this as a ref for the one * I am making //

[Noctis]

M a k I n g problem solved

[sc4retic]

no it was not a ref, you just changed the lineart. you should have told the creator that and just credit them. again i don't want to make a whole argument and as such we should both stop replying.