Equality

[Fang_Yuan]

These days people talk about how all men and women including disabled people are equal but if you think about it, men and women have different responsibility, they also have different roles people but people with disabilities are still disabled no matter what term they call disabled people none of this has meaning if no one pays attention to it so the answer is no (at least imo) not all men and women are equal A great man once said god did not make anyone above or below each other. but that doesn't mean everyone is equal, yeah everyone birth is equal but ask yourself why are there differences in people’s jobs and statuses

[w1ckedsticky1983]

No one says that they're equal. Why do you think people are still fighting to this day? The most targeted groups of inequality are People of Colour, Women, and members of the LGBTQ. At most, disabled people are looked down upon by ignorant assholes, they're not seen as equal human beings because of either learning disabilities or the fact they're physically impaired.
Although, if you really do think about about it, they shouldnt necessarily be seen as equal in the regards of how much extra time and care they need. For example: from a teaching standpoint, you wouldn't teach or treat a neurotypical person the same as you would a child with down syndrome. They need a lot more time, effort and care.
Furthermore on the fact men and women aren't seen as being equal, look at what's been occurring Afghanistan. Women are seen being worth less than a damn dog. They have no rights and it's been like this for decades.

Not saying you're necessarily wrong, but there needs to be more self awareness in your statements.

[Fang_Yuan]

@w1ckedsticky1983 said in Equality:

No one says that they're equal. Why do you think people are still fighting to this day? The most targeted groups of inequality are People of Colour, Women, and members of the LGBTQ. At most, disabled people are looked down upon by ignorant assholes, they're not seen as equal human beings because of either learning disabilities or the fact they're physically impaired.
Although, if you really do think about about it, they shouldnt necessarily be seen as equal in the regards of how much extra time and care they need. For example: from a teaching standpoint, you wouldn't teach or treat a neurotypical person the same as you would a child with down syndrome. They need a lot more time, effort and care.
Furthermore on the fact men and women aren't seen as being equal, look at what's been occurring Afghanistan. Women are seen being worth less than a damn dog. They have no rights and it's been like this for decades.

Not saying you're necessarily wrong, but there needs to be more self awareness in your statements.
You are arguing about the treatment of people whereas I am talking about the reality of human value

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@ayano_koji I am too? If you truly did value someone, you'd treat them with respect. I also mentioned the fact that majority of people don't really value women, but i was mainly touching upon the fact you claimed: "people talk about how all men and women including disabled people are equal," which clearly isn't true.

Idk, I might just be in a lot of woke online spaces. These definitely are touched upon subjects, you just don't probably see them being spoken about often. I get wym though

[Fang_Yuan]

@w1ckedsticky1983 but you are looking at the world through how things should be rather than how they actually work

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@ayano_koji and I'm adding onto the discussion. You can't get upset at someone for mentioning another aspect of 'morals and human ethics' when it's part of the topic. Even then, you missed the point of my previous statement entirely. Although, I do have to admit I went on a side tangent about people with disabilities, but I digress

Besides, I'm not looking at the world at "how it should be," I'm simply stating that since these issues are prevalent, that means society doesn't treat anyone who isn't a cis, white, straight male equally.

[Fang_Yuan]

@w1ckedsticky1983 Ok I see your point but am not simply getting upset but maybe if your topic was too comprehensive for this discussion then I guess you're right.

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@ayano_koji maybe. You do have a point though, I won't deny that. It's just the initial statement you made. I apologize if I come off as condescending as well,,,,

[Fang_Yuan]

@w1ckedsticky1983 oh ok I apologize if I overcomplicated things I didn't mean to overwhelm the discussion so thank you for understanding my point

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@ayano_koji nah, you didn't over complicate anything. No offense, but these are all surface level viewpoints, but I appreciate the effort you put in. Everyone needs to start from somewhere I suppose

Anyways, I don't wanna derail this topic,,,

[Gamizavier]

Nobody will be equal when mankind exists