u guys need to be more woke

[w1ckedsticky1983]

sex ≠ gender

[_Izzy_]

@w1ckedsticky1983 is what you described not gender disphoria tho? i think what u said abt not aligning with societies expectations makes sense but you can be a feminine man and even where dresses and still be a man if that makes sense (like rosado from fire emblemmm<3)
but if you 'dont like your [censored]' isnt that gender dysphoria?
anyways thanks for explaining it to me more, i think what im getting is its just a way ppl identify but its usually to cope with the mental disorder that is gemder dysphoria

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ well, gender dysphoria and being transgender can coexist at the same time. Feeling as if you're born in the wrong body is expected if you're transgender. It primarily depends on the person themselves and how comfortable they are in their born s3x and everything. Also, yw 4 explaining :P

[punkrotting]

@_Izzy_ No way you just said "cant you just be a feminine man"

[freedom fries]

@seal And you're completely dismissing "both sides are bad" as claims. No. They're simple facts. Have you been to a pride parade? It's probably the grossest shit you'll ever see that's legal. People peeing in rainbow pools isn't because they're "proud," it's because they're predatory sΕx gremlins.
Not to mention saying "misogyny is in everything" and "racism is in everything" is just ignorant and an immature exaggeration.

[_Izzy_]

@punkrotting wtf is wrong with saying that??? alot of men are feminine and still identify as men so idk what ur tryna say

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ feminity and identifying a women are different

[_Izzy_]

@w1ckedsticky1983 thats what im saying bruh TvT

[_Izzy_]

@freedom-fries bro WHAT pride parades are so fun TvT ig theres always bad apples but theyre actually pretty chill atleast the one in Springfield

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ but you're saying 'well, men can dress femininely, but can still identify as a male,' which is true, but isn't what being transgender is at all.

[freedom fries]

@_Izzy_ Subjective. If you think cheering on people in rainbow thongs on bicycles with old men swimming in pee-filled kiddie pools on the street is fun, you can think that if you like.

[seal]

@freedom-fries im talking about the ideals/policies/leaders of both sides, not the followers. both sides have strange members

you saying misogyny and racism ISNT in everything shows how privledged white men are

[seal]

@freedom-fries what pride parades r u going to bc this isnt normzl behzvior
and u being bi but subtly homophobic is killing me icl

[_Izzy_]

@w1ckedsticky1983 thats literally my point, you said its not a mental illness and some ppl just arent the norm and may choose to identify as trans, im saying that you can not fit the norm and not necessarily be trans

ima be real im done with this convo now:/

[_Izzy_]

@freedom-fries idk what pride parades you be checking out, like i said if you read my reply, the ones in Springfield are chill

[w1ckedsticky1983]

@_Izzy_ I dunno, I would just advise you to reread your posts with a neutral pov, because it really isnt what you're saying at all. Anyways, conversation = donezo 🥶🥶🔥✨‼️⛓️⛓️🖤🥀🔥

[freedom fries]

@seal How am I "subtly homophobic"

[_Izzy_]

@w1ckedsticky1983 all i said was ppl can act in a way that doesnt match how society says someone of their [censored] can act and still not be trans
i said this bc when u were saying its not a mental illness u mentioned ppl who dont conform with their how theyre gender should be they may identify as trans

my point was pretty stupid and common sense but i dont get why yall dont get it:/ i know thats different then being trans, that WAS the point TvT

anyways im done yappin i promise, i appreciate yall taking my question seriously^^

edit: im not done yapping TvT
my point was ppl who just say theyre trans bc the dont conform to societies expectations of their gender but dont 'feel' like a different gender just arent actually trans TvT theres just labelling themselves as such but theres no meaning behind it, if you dont feel like or want to be another [censored] then u are, (dont have gender dysphoria) then you arent trans TvT and i feel like its unfair to actual trans ppl for people to use their label just bc, but im not trans so maybe they dont mind
so its still a mental disorder:/

[freedom fries]

@seal Both sides ARE bad. Sorry but it's the truth. Leader, follower, all of them.

[punkrotting]

@_Izzy_ so r u saying "why cant u just not be trans"