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    i feel like round glasses would suit you better, the ones izzy suggested (no offense izzy) make you gain 20 years of age in my head. think izzy's glasses in the second photo, but as frames and with a lower arch so they're (reasonably) higher on your face

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      Nah you’ll probably look good, dw what people think about you, just get ones you like.

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      • saphirecrown1undefined saphirecrown1

        i feel like round glasses would suit you better, the ones izzy suggested (no offense izzy) make you gain 20 years of age in my head. think izzy's glasses in the second photo, but as frames and with a lower arch so they're (reasonably) higher on your face

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        @saphirecrown1

        I have a pic of me with her glasses :P
        IMG_3366.jpeg
        I think it’s cute but I kinda look like a nerd

        My hair looked so bad in this pic TvT

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          slim rectangular glasses are hot and i dont think them making you look older is bad at all:c

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          • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

            slim rectangular glasses are hot and i dont think them making you look older is bad at all:c

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            @_Izzy_ ok but like theres a difference between older and OLDer

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            • Johnny.SSundefined Johnny.SS

              @saphirecrown1

              I have a pic of me with her glasses :P
              IMG_3366.jpeg
              I think it’s cute but I kinda look like a nerd

              My hair looked so bad in this pic TvT

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              @Johnny.SS now imagine theyre FRAMES

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              • Johnny.SSundefined Johnny.SS

                @saphirecrown1

                I have a pic of me with her glasses :P
                IMG_3366.jpeg
                I think it’s cute but I kinda look like a nerd

                My hair looked so bad in this pic TvT

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                @Johnny.SS i cant believe you posted this pic TvT

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                • saphirecrown1undefined saphirecrown1

                  @Johnny.SS now imagine theyre FRAMES

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                  @saphirecrown1 IMG_3379.jpeg

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                    @_Izzy_ ok but like theres a difference between older and OLDer

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                    @saphirecrown1 ig so:P

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                    • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

                      @Johnny.SS i cant believe you posted this pic TvT

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                      @_Izzy_ I can 😚

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                        @saphirecrown1 IMG_3379.jpeg

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                        @Johnny.SS i used the correct one?

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                        • _Izzy_undefined _Izzy_

                          slim rectangular glasses are hot and i dont think them making you look older is bad at all:c

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                          @_Izzy_ a lot of their lenses are wayyy too big for my small ass eyes but I think they look nice in general

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                            @saphirecrown1 IMG_3379.jpeg

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                            @Johnny.SS the illiteracy issue is real 😞

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                              @Johnny.SS the illiteracy issue is real 😞

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                              @_Izzy_ I USED THE CORRECT FORM 😣

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                                @_Izzy_ I USED THE CORRECT FORM 😣

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                                @saphirecrown1 What does “imagine they are frames” mean in a conversation about glasses frames, when it’s said under a picture of me wearing glasses as a reference,the glasses are used as a reference for their frame 😭

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                                  @_Izzy_ I USED THE CORRECT FORM 😣

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                                  @saphirecrown1 i know i was calling him illiterate TvT
                                  but now that i think of it whether you used the right one depends on what you were tryna say
                                  atfirst it sounded like you meant imagine their (as in someone else's) frames
                                  but theyre is like 'imagine they are frames'
                                  but now that i think of it that doesnt make sense TvT
                                  so maybe IM the illiterate one 😞

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                                    @saphirecrown1 What does “imagine they are frames” mean in a conversation about glasses frames, when it’s said under a picture of me wearing glasses as a reference,the glasses are used as a reference for their frame 😭

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                                    @Johnny.SS frames like a different type of glasses, like i mentioned with my suggestion

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                                      maybe the illiteracy was the friends we made along the way 🤔

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                                        Do I look homosexual with round glasses? 🤔

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                                          @saphirecrown1 i know i was calling him illiterate TvT
                                          but now that i think of it whether you used the right one depends on what you were tryna say
                                          atfirst it sounded like you meant imagine their (as in someone else's) frames
                                          but theyre is like 'imagine they are frames'
                                          but now that i think of it that doesnt make sense TvT
                                          so maybe IM the illiterate one 😞

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                                          @_Izzy_ frames like the glasses where its just the thin metal, no visible content/color

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