Why are ppl STILL using generative AI

[orbital]

@seesaw ii foorgoor... TOMORROW!!!!

[PhantemXtX]

As someone who knows alot about ai and just tech in general for the water issue you stated thats not a problem 90% of the water used to cool is recycled and the power issue in reality with make things like electric cars more available as energy producers invest in better grid infrastructure and delivery

[seesaw]

@orbital why are we doing a countdown ... "If we can get this post to 67 up votes I will give my final opinion!! Stay tuned!"

[seesaw]

@phantemxtx ohh okay I see!! If you do know, what's the process of the recycling?? Is it like going back to places that it was taken from or is just naturally going to places where it would be due to the water cycle (if that makes sense). And it's good it's 90% of it IS recycled somehow, but what happens to that ten percent?? Because in the end it's still ten percent we are losing, and that 10 percent will add up to a lot of water lost in the end

[seesaw]

@Sup3rSwaggyy1983 ey I might lowk BCUZ SO MANY TEACHERS ARE ENCOURAGING AI EVEN MY ART TEACHER

[seesaw]

@Faust yess TAHTS bother bad thing about search engines SPECIFICALLY Google is that it uses Gemini to summarize stuff it finds online, but I know that there are alternative search engines that don't require that!

[szczęśliwy]

this article you wrote is the ONLY thing prompting me to post in over 3 months, great job!

[Sup3rSwaggyy1983]

@orbital hurry the fuck up dawg

[Sup3rSwaggyy1983]

@seesaw HELP, NOT THE ART TEACHER LOWK GLAD MY ART PROGRAM IN SCHOOL WAS CUT DUE TO BUDGETS, I THINK SHE SUPPORTED AI either way, she was a crap teacher from what I heard, so uh-

[seesaw]

@szczęśliwy AHH THANK YOU SO MUCH!! it means a lot to me that my post about this is encouraging people ️️🥹 tysm

[seesaw]

@Sup3rSwaggyy1983 OHH MY DAYS NO BECAUSE YOU GUYS... you are ON the WRONG side of the team AI IS OUT FOR YALLS JOBS!! WATCH OUT

[Sup3rSwaggyy1983]

@seesaw EXACTLYY, THATS WHY I DONT GET IT WHEN TEACHERS USE AI FOR GRADING MOST OF MY TEACHERS DONT EVEN TEACH, ITS JUST ALL INDEPENDENT WORK SO IM JUST SITTING THERE, WONDERING CAUSE LIKE BRO..what do you do.

[seesaw]

@Sup3rSwaggyy1983 bro how hard is it to do your job YALL ARE PAID TO TEACH AND YALL CANT EVEN DO THAT LOLL

[Sup3rSwaggyy1983]

@seesaw FRRR LIKE, I GEN DUNNO WHAT MY ENGLISH TEACHER DOES, SHE JUST SITS THERE HANDING OUT ASSIGNMENTS, BUT DOESN'T EVEN GRADE THEM UNTIL LIKE 2 WEEKS LATER

[seesaw]

@Sup3rSwaggyy1983 two weeks later is CRAZY BRUH 🥹🥹 job had one bro and they can't even do it in a WEEK

[Sup3rSwaggyy1983]

@seesaw genuinely sometimes it even takes her so long, by the time she actually grades assignments is at the end of the quarter.

[seesaw]

@Sup3rSwaggyy1983 END OF THE QUARTER HELLOOO??? WHAT is your teacher doing that it takes THAT LONG

[orbital]

my only real rebuttals is that the amount of water used in ai datacenters are typically extremely low and usually incurs evaporatively. for example, most ai datacenters use cooling towers similar to what youd see in a nuclear plant, although on a much smaller scale. what happens (in most datacenters) is the water gets sprayed over an array of coils or any good heat conducive material as large fans blow on it, and as the water evaporates it absorbs heat from the system, cools the air around it, and lowers the temperature of the water that goes back into the servers. also, in new development more ai companies are leaning into closed loop pipe cooling, which would actually lead to near 0 water loss as it'd be constantly recirculated. now, no loop is fully airtight (figuratively) and the water will eventually evaporate into the atmosphere, but the use of ai doesnt inherently "consume" water to any degree, and if we're talking about environmental impact the multi trillion dollar infrastructure of the internet itself would be far more harmful than AI. now yes, as you said the amount of electricity AI consumes is fairly marginal but at the same time it doesn't take away from you directly. your local grid controller isn't going to under any circumstances give power to an AI datacenter that it can't supply. more power plants will pop up as needed to feed any given industry, and that isnt exclusive to AI, and although fossil fuels are incredibly toxic to the planet in general it's a global problem rather than just 1 industry. as far as stolen works, its publicly availiable information on the internet that can be accessed to anyone and there isnt an extreme difference in a human or a robot plagarizing, although ill admit AI can do it on a much larger scale and its more of an ethical debate than techicnal. overall i use ai almost every day, but at the same time i use it sparingly and sometimes just for fun if i'm bored because none of my actual friends would bother talking to me about nuclear engineering; but i definitely understand the perspective of someone who sees another person fully leaning on AI for basic day to day tasks, which i do not support. overall i think that AI itself isnt harmful but the companies running the AI datacenters and especially the technology manufacturers are prioritizing a short-term paycheck over consumer value which is pretty disgraceful (for example micron and nvidia) and needs to be addressed, and yet it still isnt directly the AI's fault. human greed is at the end of any business and there are a plethora of ways ai can be interpreted as harmful but it all leads back to a human executive board and a desire for profit

[seesaw]

@orbital the countdown was necessary /jay
OKAY yeah because I wasn't actually sure what the exact process they used water when I tried searching it up, all I knew was it did use water somehow. And Its more comforting to hear that the water isn't actually used way more than what I have seen. The part that worries me is how yes most of the art the AI is fed is public domain, but because people are using it to "train" the bot so it could do similar things without the talent or time it takes. Which obviously makes it so people who do these things as jobs aren't able to actually do what they enjoy because AI is doing it for them!

[szczęśliwy]

@seesaw yeah no problem, the article quality honestly deserved it so no thank you necessary