@_Izzy_ I think Thats a really god example bc now some of the more conservative Japanese population (obv Japan is just conservative in general I DONT want nobody dick riding in my replies) is embarrassed to have kimonos be a cultural thing now so I feel like it shows that sexualization can ruin pride in indentity

@_Izzy_ yeah I agree with your first point completely. I think a lot of people in the replies misunderstood what we meant and assumed we were saying sexualization itself is bad, which isn’t really the argument.

Sexualization and fetishization are two different things.

Sexualization just means a character is portrayed as attractive or sensual. That can exist in media and still leave room for the character to be respected as an actual person in the story. If it fits the character and isn’t the only thing people see in them, most people don’t really mind it.

Fetishization is different because the character’s identity becomes the fantasy. Instead of people appreciating their writing, themes, or role in the story, their race, sexuality, or minority status becomes the thing people fixate on. That’s when it stops being appreciation and starts feeling objectifying.

That’s more what I was talking about in my post. You’ll see characters or interpretations get ignored, mocked, or rejected at first, but the moment sexualized fanart or edits start circulating, suddenly people start “liking” them. When the acceptance only comes once the character can be fantasized about, it kind of reveals what the attention is really about.

And like you said, racial minorities like black women tend to experience this the most. When the only time people loudly support or hype something is when it can be turned into a fantasy, it can feel less like representation and more like being reduced to a trope.

So yeah, the point wasn’t “characters can’t be attractive or sexualized.” It was just pointing out that there’s a difference between appreciating a character and only valuing them once they become something people can fetishize.

@lily.love4390 we’re dating irl

@Jujub_811 green tea or lemonade

@_Izzy_ omg pookie we’re alright

@_Izzy_ I don’t even feel it’s that hard and doesn’t even need to be anything crazy,just acknowledgment and not “people will be people” bc that removes accountability and takes away from the fact that it’s an actual issue

@_Izzy_ people have gotten too comfortable with the “we have gone so far” mindset bc they believe that there’s minimal room for improvement and Thats far from the truth

@_Izzy_ it died didn’t ruin my day but its uninspired to just say “Thats just the way it is” bc Thats WHY so much issues are still here today

@_Izzy_ I haven’t seen anybody talk abt it online as well bc it’s a huge issue

@_Izzy_ I agree but it’s just kinda annoying to see the same bs online when theres much more important issues

@_Izzy_ ur the one that came in with “it’s bc it’s not ur smile” and I responded also nobody gaf abt ts anyway

@Yanderemenhera subzero take,most normal people would agree and it doesn’t bring anything to the table tbh,not to be excessive but most have this idea already

@_Izzy_ I feel like feminism lost its meaning completely when it wasn't about equality and became a conversation on gender roles bc enforcing strict gender roles is exactly the opposite of what it aimed to do

@_Izzy_ for real,it’s annoying that it’s seen as empowering

@Yanderemenhera I don’t see women rejecting feminism it’s always exclusively men,I’ve seen a rise in “feminism” with the idea that men are to be hated

@_Izzy_ I think bro feminism is corny bc it’s just obnoxious “kill all men” women who say corny shit about assassinating men to put down their oppressor,womanism should be the ideas that people should want to reclaim bc it doesn’t have that association and is just objectively a more logical belief system bc a white woman and black woman are not at the same level of oppression

@_Izzy_ Bayonneta is ac an amazing example I’m mad j didnt think of her

@st4tic ts so peak

@st4tic Ryuk from death note

@_Izzy_ not to be rude but it pmo anytime I hear “im not ___buttttt….” Bc it’s useless information that makes the after statement feel less genuine,esp if it’s something thag has a stigma to be like lgbtq,black or disabled