Charlie Kirk
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@pawthetic yeah and people are making fun of charlie kirk's death right now too. murder is murder, death is death, no matter who's on the receiving end of it unless theyre like a fucking terrorist.
@orbital completely missed my point. which is: nobody ever points out people mocking others deaths until its a cishet rich white republican man that died
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juuuust sayin. and no im not arguing mods. im debating.
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no arguing intended here
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@orbital completely missed my point. which is: nobody ever points out people mocking others deaths until its a cishet rich white republican man that died
@pawthetic youre tripping. like actually. ur making this about genders and race. its not.
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@pawthetic youre tripping. like actually. ur making this about genders and race. its not.
@orbital its about privilege
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they have the privilege of more people caring rather than mocking them about their death
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@pawthetic yeah i guess i kind of get what youre saying, but i don’t think outrage is selective in the way you're framing it. i lived in minneapolis and experienced the george floyd riots firsthand, nothing about it was selective or priviledge , it was just about humanity. what IS selective is how political bias filters which deaths are acknowledged or ignored. murder, suicide, genocide, none should be minimized from what they are, which is a human life.
Ya no me enojo contigo
Solo observo y pienso
"me decepcionó"
Y alejo más de ti
Porque yo ya no quiero sufrir
Quiero ser feliz -
@pawthetic yeah i guess i kind of get what youre saying, but i don’t think outrage is selective in the way you're framing it. i lived in minneapolis and experienced the george floyd riots firsthand, nothing about it was selective or priviledge , it was just about humanity. what IS selective is how political bias filters which deaths are acknowledged or ignored. murder, suicide, genocide, none should be minimized from what they are, which is a human life.
@orbital people react how they want to any given situation, people are rioting about the illegal deportations, people are rioting about lgbtq rights violations, all at any given time. someone, somewhere, is always upset about the unjust treatment of someone, and people dont just 'care' about charlie kirk because of who he was. i hate the mf, but that doesnt change the fact that he WAS a person.
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@pawthetic yeah i guess i kind of get what youre saying, but i don’t think outrage is selective in the way you're framing it. i lived in minneapolis and experienced the george floyd riots firsthand, nothing about it was selective or priviledge , it was just about humanity. what IS selective is how political bias filters which deaths are acknowledged or ignored. murder, suicide, genocide, none should be minimized from what they are, which is a human life.
@orbital you get it ever so slightly. im saying that charlotte fosgate is no less human than him but a sliver of people are making posts in her honor such as this one, when she was and is being mocked more than him.
but the SECOND a rich white cishet man gets shot. EVERY LEFTIST IS HORRIBLE AND WE NEED TO GO TO WAR!!!!!!!!!
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id also like to point out how me making a post on her gets locked but this stays up. got it.
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@orbital you get it ever so slightly. im saying that charlotte fosgate is no less human than him but a sliver of people are making posts in her honor such as this one, when she was and is being mocked more than him.
but the SECOND a rich white cishet man gets shot. EVERY LEFTIST IS HORRIBLE AND WE NEED TO GO TO WAR!!!!!!!!!
@pawthetic twin wtf? political rivalries spark constantly and both sides of the spectrum are constantly at eachothers throats. thats not what we're talking about tho.
perhaps the reason charlotte fosgate isnt as widely recognized is because she wasnt an internationally recognized political figure
it doesnt make what happened to her any less terrible, its just the fact that charlie kirk had an audience. a fucking big one. he was shot on NATIONAL television. his gender, his identification, and his background didnt influence the outrage, the fact that he had eyes on him from all over the country, both from supporters and haters, is what caused it.Ya no me enojo contigo
Solo observo y pienso
"me decepcionó"
Y alejo más de ti
Porque yo ya no quiero sufrir
Quiero ser feliz -
@pawthetic twin wtf? political rivalries spark constantly and both sides of the spectrum are constantly at eachothers throats. thats not what we're talking about tho.
perhaps the reason charlotte fosgate isnt as widely recognized is because she wasnt an internationally recognized political figure
it doesnt make what happened to her any less terrible, its just the fact that charlie kirk had an audience. a fucking big one. he was shot on NATIONAL television. his gender, his identification, and his background didnt influence the outrage, the fact that he had eyes on him from all over the country, both from supporters and haters, is what caused it.@orbital good point. however; her death was on international social media
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true, but visibility also isnt everything either. before her death she didnt really have a widely known reputation, but ck already had a massive platform. people knew who he was both before and after his death. re-iterating; his opinions and position didnt get him the recognition, his popularity did
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and popularity isnt really rooted in support or distain, its just seeded in engagement. like how youre still supporting the algorithm of a video by disliking it
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id respond but i lwk forgot what the base of the debate was
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what do you call it like
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@pawthetic you said charlie kirk is only recognized because hes a cisgender white male
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nono thats not what im saying
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im saying people only care because he is
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